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Mermaids being investigated by the Charity Commission - thread 2

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ResisterRex · 06/10/2022 05:55

The first thread, towards the end of which there was a discussion about having a second thread but it wasn't added:

Mermaids being investigated by the charity commission
http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4644323-mermaids-being-investigated-by-the-charity-commissionn_

There's been a new development so maybe a second thread would be useful:

Lottery pauses trans charity cash during investigation

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/c959a286-44e4-11ed-8885-043c27446b97?shareToken=6d482edb1a386656502f33453da5c230

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Datun · 09/10/2022 12:35

ScreamingMeMe · 09/10/2022 12:02

Fucking hell. That looks like a girl's school kilt draped strategically over an obvious penis. And this is from the person who says if a male is challenged in a girl's space, they should call 999??

I honestly thought that Susie Green had been a victim of her own ignorance and homophobia, and the possible manipulation by a men's sexual rights movement. And was just ideological driven, to the point of losing sight of reality. And sanity.

But bloody hell no one can look at that and not have a klaxon going off that you can hear from space.

This isn't ignorance, is it? Far bloody from it.

RedToothBrush · 09/10/2022 12:37

Mew’s first suggestion to males challenged in female spaces is that they ring 999"

Tactical bullying and intimidation of victims and critical dissent to avoid scrutiny has a whole industry.

We know its widely used in legal circles.

It is widely employed by abusive men in the family courts. The use of the police to harass as part of coercive control is well known but is poorly understood and recognised by the courts. The backlash and scandal about the lack of transparency of the family courts is very much rooted in this lack of understanding and how its resulting in incredibly inconsistent and troubling rulings.

'Our Stef' was another good example in action that people will be aware of here by harassing and intimidating by strategic litigation.

It also happens at higher levels. To the point that UK recently changed the law to make SLAPPS a criminal offence in its own right. Across Europe, there is political encouragement to do the same. See this for a good explanation of SLAPPS and what is going on more widely across Europe:

www.ecpmf.eu/slapp-the-background-of-strategic-lawsuits-against-public-participation/

There is real concern that strategic abuse of the power of authority against ordinary citizens is damaging and harmful to the public interest.

Yet this is completely opposite to the US where no such attempts are being made. Its very much a social contagion that has come from the US's letigious framework and culture.

Once you see it and identify it, it's much more obvious. Our Police service should be a lot more aware of it happening and more importantly how it's been corrupted by lobbying to ALLOW it to happen.

But again, here Mermaids are very much in the centre of trends that aren't conducive to transparency and empowering public voices.

When we are campaigning against certain things its very much worth knowing how the likes of Mermaids and Stonewall fit in with wider trends - especially when we know that there are concerns about the same type of behavior in other areas. It helps to strengthen cases by understanding what the problem is and how it's creating injustice.

This is about the power dynamics and enforcement of public rights against authority which seeks to make out that those rights don't exist and to silence group actions which have power through numbers.

Mermaids don't exist in a vacuum. Put them into context.

The smear that Gender Criticals are aligned with the far right is just another Davro to create smoke and mirrors. To create a you are either with us or against us narrative whilst also doing some dam dodgy stuff and actively and consciously hanging out with some pretty nefarious circles rather than being in a stopped clock scenario.

ScreamingMeMe · 09/10/2022 12:41

ScreamingMeMe · 09/10/2022 12:02

Mew again, the subject of an x-rated collage.

Look, grown adults can pose nude for artwork if they want. What they can't do, is also work for a children's charity.

twitter.com/haus_magazine/status/1275738606049603585?t=W1cTB5syerz-5fVLuYWNPQ&s=19

nauticant · 09/10/2022 12:42

I meant, why Mermaids as the figure head of the action? Why not one of the LGB&T orgs?

We can speculate that Mermaids has a lot to lose if LGBA can get through to young gay people

To avoid having a Charity Commission case thrown out the party bringing it must have standing, ie to demonstrate they have a good reason to bring their case, for example that they would be adversely affected by an entity being registered as a charity. As you wrote "Mermaids has a lot to lose...".

nilsmousehammer · 09/10/2022 12:54

Datun · 09/10/2022 12:35

Fucking hell. That looks like a girl's school kilt draped strategically over an obvious penis. And this is from the person who says if a male is challenged in a girl's space, they should call 999??

I honestly thought that Susie Green had been a victim of her own ignorance and homophobia, and the possible manipulation by a men's sexual rights movement. And was just ideological driven, to the point of losing sight of reality. And sanity.

But bloody hell no one can look at that and not have a klaxon going off that you can hear from space.

This isn't ignorance, is it? Far bloody from it.

Social inappropriacy. Sexual inappropriacy. Over and over and over again. Multiple sources.

This is a fixed, embedded, embraced culture, not one or two naive people who have made a bit of an innocent whoops.

This is what 'queering childhood' means .

titchy · 09/10/2022 12:55

I do wonder who is really pulling MM's strings and whether SG realises her charity has been totally and utterly manipulated? I also wonder whether the LBGA court case will just be thrown out now?

CrossPurposes · 09/10/2022 12:58

ScreamingMeMe · 09/10/2022 12:41

Mew again, the subject of an x-rated collage.

Look, grown adults can pose nude for artwork if they want. What they can't do, is also work for a children's charity.

twitter.com/haus_magazine/status/1275738606049603585?t=W1cTB5syerz-5fVLuYWNPQ&s=19

NSFW by the way!

RedToothBrush · 09/10/2022 12:59

nilsmousehammer · 09/10/2022 12:54

Social inappropriacy. Sexual inappropriacy. Over and over and over again. Multiple sources.

This is a fixed, embedded, embraced culture, not one or two naive people who have made a bit of an innocent whoops.

This is what 'queering childhood' means .

You've forgot poor judgment skills and ability to assess characters and their agenda.

Women with autism, through no fault of their own, are more at risk to get sucked into this even if they do not identify as trans.

They are 'the perfect ally' in a sense.

RedToothBrush · 09/10/2022 13:05

I'm a fan of nikki da costa.

I don't always agree with her politically, however she is thorough, sticks to point and isn't emotional. She has a rational approach. Her argument is always based on reason. Its a professional attitude and analysis on everything she does which is incredibly refreshing considering her career and credentials.

Interesting to see her talking on this. I note her fee is going to domestic abuse charities too.

IvyTwines · 09/10/2022 13:12

Mew was nominated for a Positive Role Model Award in the 2019 National Diversity Awards. Nominated by whom, one wonders?

Mermaids being investigated by the Charity Commission - thread 2
ghislaine · 09/10/2022 13:13

Here’s the job description for the Mermaids Digital Engagement Officer which makes it clear that the incumbent’s role includes moderating the chat forums: mermaidsuk.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/DEO-Application-Pack-2022.docx-1-1.pdf.

InTheCanteen · 09/10/2022 13:15

Whenever Nikki Da Costa writes for The Telegraph on these issues, her fee always goes to Aurora New Dawn.

RedToothBrush · 09/10/2022 13:20

ghislaine · 09/10/2022 13:13

Here’s the job description for the Mermaids Digital Engagement Officer which makes it clear that the incumbent’s role includes moderating the chat forums: mermaidsuk.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/DEO-Application-Pack-2022.docx-1-1.pdf.

I look forward to the next statement from Mermaids and the reaction from the usual suspects on this guy.

Maybe the press should just had a dedicated section to 'what shit Mermaids staff have got up to now'. Oh wait that's what they do have and are managing to fill with examples of dodgy practice and dodgy associations on an almost daily basis.

How much more material have they got left for the series before they run out? This could run for some considerable time couldn't it?

Jesus wept.

IvyTwines · 09/10/2022 13:24

Chat forums currently closed "due to intolerable abuse". Interesting choice of words.

TheBiologyStupid · 09/10/2022 13:29

RedToothBrush · 09/10/2022 13:20

I look forward to the next statement from Mermaids and the reaction from the usual suspects on this guy.

Maybe the press should just had a dedicated section to 'what shit Mermaids staff have got up to now'. Oh wait that's what they do have and are managing to fill with examples of dodgy practice and dodgy associations on an almost daily basis.

How much more material have they got left for the series before they run out? This could run for some considerable time couldn't it?

Jesus wept.

The Charity Commission are going to be kept busy reviewing Mermaids and safeguarding.

ArabellaScott · 09/10/2022 13:38

CrossPurposes · 09/10/2022 12:58

NSFW by the way!

Cripes.

Mew has written for Times Higher Education.

www.timeshighereducation.com/author/darren-mew

Mew writes for DIVA here, along with Marlo Mack. A video by Marlo Mack 'how to be a girl' is STILL on the Scottish curriculum. It's the one with the Lords prayer playing very very quietly in the background.

diva-magazine.com/2022/03/30/author-marlo-mack-and-mermaids-darren-mew-on-allyship-trans-visibility-and-normalising-transness/

Honestly, you think you've fallen down rabbitholes ....

Creepy Lords Prayer starts around 1.15, you have to turn the sound up really high. Scotgov are promoting this, a reminder, everyone!

ghislaine · 09/10/2022 13:43

There’s also some ‘interesting’ stuff on Darren’s insta, MxDarren.

TheClogLady · 09/10/2022 13:56

ghislaine · 09/10/2022 13:13

Here’s the job description for the Mermaids Digital Engagement Officer which makes it clear that the incumbent’s role includes moderating the chat forums: mermaidsuk.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/DEO-Application-Pack-2022.docx-1-1.pdf.

Link leads to the homepage.

Looks like they are actively deleting stuff right now.

ResisterRex · 09/10/2022 14:09

Fucking hell. The latest developments on here

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TheBiologyStupid · 09/10/2022 14:10

TheClogLady · 09/10/2022 13:56

Link leads to the homepage.

Looks like they are actively deleting stuff right now.

Unfortunately for Mermaids you can download the application pack clearly stating that the Digital Engagement Officer's role includes moderating the chat boards from this archived page: web.archive.org/web/20220930223750/mermaidsuk.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/DEO-Application-Pack-2022.docx-1-1.pdf

Shakenotslurred · 09/10/2022 14:13

Am I the only one thinking stonewall have used this to throw mermaids under the bus? It would have made more sense for SW to challenge LGBA status, but they got a smaller charity with less standing to challenge. I reckon SW can see which way the wind is blowing on these issues and is using the time that everyone is focussed on mermaids to clean house. They know they are next….

LunaLights · 09/10/2022 14:15

Hopefully, all the wonderful archivists have done as thorough a job compiling SW’s atrocities as they have MMs…

MrsOvertonsWindow · 09/10/2022 14:17

Would an investigation into Stonewall staff be any different? Remember, they promptly appointed Aimee Challenor to their Trans Advisory Group which worked with schools when their links with a paedophile were exposed.

Shakenotslurred · 09/10/2022 14:17

I really hope so @LunaLights I mean one of the founders Of SW did write a letter to a newspaper saying children having sex with adults was not necessarily a bad thing…..

BettyFilous · 09/10/2022 14:20

ScreamingMeMe · 09/10/2022 12:41

Mew again, the subject of an x-rated collage.

Look, grown adults can pose nude for artwork if they want. What they can't do, is also work for a children's charity.

twitter.com/haus_magazine/status/1275738606049603585?t=W1cTB5syerz-5fVLuYWNPQ&s=19

Mermaids’ recent statement about undertaking social media checks etc as part of their recruitment process isn’t ageing well. 🤦‍♀️

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