Carolyn Farrow taken to police station

[ScreamingMeMe]

Long twitter thread here. She's had her electronic devices seized too, and has been accused of being certain posters on Kiwi Farms and Mumsnet

@BernardBlacksWineIceLolly and @BreakWindandFire sorry to tag you but she's been accused of being you!

We all know who this will be, but as Caroline says, please don't speculate/discuss them.

twitter.com/CF_Farrow/status/1577092705154666496?t=Cv7tRv3YdqIogpXT_MSwZQ&s=19

Putting the link in double sets of square brackets removes the MN site messing up the link:

twitter.com/_lisa_townsend/status/1577369416173588480

Thanks @nauticant

I watched the interview, Mark Stein does not come across as a sympathetic interviewer, rather an individual with his own agenda i.e. "all police are bad". He repeatedly cut Caroline off mid sentence and missed some of the more salient points Caroline raised to push his own view of policing in the UK.

Caroline if you read this, your grace and poise in the face of what came over as hostile questioning was a sight to behold. God bless xx

Voicing the reality that humans don't change sex, I presume. Not being cowed enough so that you feel compelled to lie through your teeth about it. And, not being 'nice' and 'validating' about it all for those who are promoting this belief.

Having seen the abysmal figures wrt Surrey Police's efforts on child rape and sexual abuse, it appears to me they'd rather send a swat team to hammer down the door of a woman in front of her children without even having evidence she wrote the 'hurty words' being alleged.

Contrasting their performance for both of these, and sadly for women and children, it strikes me that Policing in Surrey must provide a very comfortable environment indeed for certain types of men.

Yes AnotherDayAnotherView he came across as a dick having no engagement in the actual story in front of him. Still, it's a style of media I don't normally see and it's good for me to step outside my comfort zone and it's good for this story to be picked up by all kinds of different audiences.

Good to see Lisa Townsend is on it.

There is ample proof of kiwi farm's association with bullying vulnerable people to suicide (something it openly celebrates as its raison d'etre and at one point had a counter on its front page celebrating the number of suicides attributed to it), and its association with the christchurch mosque shooter, and its recent involvement in swatting incidents (for anyone who doesn't know "swatting" is where someone makes a fraudulent call to the police claiming there's an active shooter at an address they've doxxed in the hopes the police will overreact and shoot someone). There is no innocent reason to be posting on a site like that, it's one of the most vile places on the internet and Farrow will not be the only kiwifarms user under police investigation.

i can't even be bothered to take this apart

have you got any evidence to back up what you say?

nah, course you haven't

I do love it when kiwi farms viewers come and tell silly women not to read kiwi farms.

There are thankfully other individuals on the channel that are more in tune with people who do not behave in the same manner as Mark. It is useful to step out of one's "comfort zone" from time to time to access other opinions :)

The part which caught my eye was:

There is no innocent reason to be posting on a site like that, it's one of the most vile places on the internet and Farrow will not be the only kiwifarms user under police investigation

with its dual implication that firstly posting anything on that site means someone is guilty in some unspecified way and secondly that even in the absence of any illegality the police in the UK will go after you.

So how do all these people who hate KF know exactly how it works and what is on there? 🤔🤔🤔. They seem very knowledgeable. And very determined that we don’t go and look there. I do wonder why that is?

One could easily associate Twitter with the same things as Kiwifarm.
Who doesn’t remember the Twitter accounts of western ISIS members resettling in Raqqa and merrily chatting about food and beheadings.

Ahh, but remember, it's more important for the police to be concerned about what you think than what you actually do.

A couple of years ago a woman I'd never met began tweeting outrageous and damaging lies about me. She repeatedly, almost daily, falsely accused me of various things I had never done to her (or anyone). When challenged by others to provide screenshots or other evidence of my alleged actions, she ignored the requests but carried on posting the lies.

I called the police.

Two officers visited me at home and told me that they were not able to take any action against her. To prosecute her under the Malicious Communications Act, they said, she would have to be sending me unwanted messages direct to me, in PMs or by email, text, phone, etc. They agreed that her tweets definitely amounted to defamation, but told me that defamation is a civil, not a criminal offence, and so I would have to sue her privately in the High Court.
Why, then, are they arresting Caroline?

You don't have to look any further than Wikipedia to find proof that what I'm saying is true. The most basic google search will confirm everything I've said about kiwifarms is true. It's a well known far right troll site, its own stated purpose for existence is to bully vulnerable people to suicide. The site hosted material posted by the Christchurch mosque shooter who murdered 51 people. The site has recently been dropped by its host for being, a direct quote, "a threat to human life". Anyone who denies this is being willfully ignorant.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwi_Farms

On this basis, if I expressed ill-will or dislike towards someone for being a Scientologist or someone else for being a young earther, then I would be breaking the law? Even if it’s just dislike, no violence implied? That seems extreme.

There's a long thread about Kiwi Farms elsewhere on MN but for anyone wanting a better idea of what went on rather than looking at Wikipedia, this is very informative:

www.blockedandreported.org/p/episode-131-who-is-stalking-the-twitch

Spoiler: the "a threat to human life" narrative was as a result of journalistic failure.

You don't have to look any further than Wikipedia

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I’m no expert but I suspect this may have been where you went wrong…

@SnapeAlways i have sent you a dm on twitter. I appreciate you are busy. Thank you for popping into the thread.

I can vouch first hand for the "over-reach" police currently take whenever they can. More often than not, it's punching down but we are all down from someone so this affects all of us. Chilling.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha.... Sorry... hahaha, just let me pull myself togeth..... hahahahahahahahahah hahahahahahahahah 'er and I'll type a response. Hahahahahahahaha. Nope, I can't do it. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Seriously. Wiki-fucking-pedia????????? And you think anyone with a modicum of a clue about anything should take anything you say as worthy of merit? Come the fuck on.

Cmon wiki is the fount of all knowledge 🤣😝

Whoever may have instigated this arrest of Farrow may have pinned a statement about the arrest on his or her Twitter feed, like a trophy.

This is sick.

Wikipedia can be an excellent resource, so long as in using it you are aware of its limitations. I've used it for work to access highly technical information and it has been great.

However, as soon as you head into contentious areas, particularly having a political dimension, it can be worse than useless. Those contentious issues that trans activists are engaged in are often filled with misinformation with some of the assertions that can be found seemingly over the line in being libellous.