Mermaids vs LGB Alliance and Charity Commissioner - First-tier Tribunal (General Regulatory Chamber) Thread 3

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The Tribunal started on 9 September, witness testimony started on 12 September.

To obtain access to view the proceedings, send a request email to [email protected] about case CA/2021/0013 - Mermaids vs Charity Commissioner and LGB Alliance and ask for permission to join. You then have to provide certain information and agree to a judge's direction in order to be able to join.

There is also live tweeting from twitter.com/tribunaltweets.

Abbreviations:

J or judge: Presiding Judge, Judge Lynn Griffin
AJ or Judge: Assisted by Judge Joe Neville
MG: Mermaids counsel is Michael Gibbon KC
KM: LGB Alliance counsel is Karon Monaghan KC
AR: Karon is assisted by Akua Reindorf
IS: Charity Commission counsel is Iain Steele

(Also the witnesses, PR: Paul Roberts, JN: John Nicolson. BB: Belinda Bell, BJ: Beverley Jackson, KH: Kate Harris, and EG: Eileen Gallagher.)

Thread 1: mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4629679-mermaids-versus-lgb-alliance-in-court-today
Thread 2: mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4632780-mermaids-vs-lgb-alliance-and-charity-commissioner-first-tier-tribunal-general-regulatory-chameber-thread-2
Thread 3: ongoing

Witnesses for the applicant (Mermaids):

Paul Roberts - CEO of LGBT Consortium (12 September)
John Nicolson MP - Deputy Chair of the All-Party Parliamentary Group on Global LGBT+ Rights (13 September)
Dr Belinda Bell - Chair of trustees of Mermaids (13 September)

Witnesses for the respondent (LGB Alliance):

Beverley Jackson - Co-founder and trustee of LGB Alliance (13-14 September)
Kate Harris - Co-founder and trustee of LGB Alliance (14-15 September)
Eileen Gallagher OBE - Chair of trustees of LGB Alliance (15 September)

Witness Statements:

Paul Roberts: lgballiance.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Paul-Roberts-Witness-Statement-Exhibits.pdf
John Nicolson MP - lgballiance.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/John-Nicolson-Witness-Statement-Exhibits.pdf
Dr Belinda Bell: lgballiance.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Belinda-Bell-Witness-Statement-Exhibits.pdf
Beverley Jackson: lgballiance.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Bev-Jackson-Witness-Statement-Exhibits-1.pdf
Kate Harris: lgballiance.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Kate-Harris-Witness-Statement-Exhibits.pdf
Eileen Gallagher (two statements): lgballiance.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Eileen-Gallagher-Witness-Statement-Exhibits.pdf lgballiance.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Eileen-Gallagher-Second-Witness-Statement-Exhibits.pdf

Submissions:

lgballiance.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Volume-4-Submissions-CA.2021.0013.pdf

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post updated by MNHQ at OP's request

Chimp claims (of male "milk") - "I mean it comes from the same tissue so seems extremely likely [that it is the same as breast milk]"

But this is fallacious.

Pavlov's dogs salivated at the sound of a bell - but the constituents of the "bell" saliva were vastly different to the constituents of the "dinner" saliva.

It's brilliant, isn't it @BernardBlacksWineIcelolly ? 😂

Don't ovaries and testicles start off as the same tissue?

I WANT TO JOIN THE CONVERSATIONS ON RoF!

<Rushes off to do a law degree with the OU>

I've just checked and I've generated £1.70. Not much but as you say, shows support. It would be interesting to know how many people have nominated LGB Alliance for their Amazon Smile.

Someone I know recently nominated LGB Alliance for their Facebook birthday fundraiser.

Thanks for the new thread - and thanks Tuesday

Thank you from me too for these threads and the ongoing commentary - I'm just catching up and it's very much appreciated.

You don't have to be a lawyer, @Emotionalsupportviper! Quite a few people on there aren't. It is a pretty toxic place though.

Warren is indeed crackers, and his misogyny knows no bounds. I find Chimp really disturbing though.

It doesn't surprise me to come across lawyers who are complete and utter morons on the internet. I come across lawyers who are complete and utter morons in real life too. As well as some very good ones, of course!

But somehow I expect better from doctors. Warren probably can't kill anyone by being shit at his job. Chimp could though.

I suppose it's not all that surprising that if crazy people can slip through the net to qualify as lawyers, they can also slip through the net to qualify as doctors. But there's a part of my brain that still shouts, "No! This can't be right! There must be some sort of sanity test you have to pass before they let you loose on patients!"

Sadly, we know from Harold Shipman, the Webberleys and Sidhbh Gallagher that there is no sanity test.

Some absolutely cracking posts on this thread. Thanks to all

Take at look at what the robust army types are making of it all on arrse
www.arrse.co.uk/community/threads/the-nothing-to-do-with-transgender-thread.290165/page-325

Marry me.

I opened the Mermaids tweet & started Suzie Green’s video earlier. I just clicked on it to watch the rest & it has gone. Hope lots of people archived it.

He better get used to losing...!

Yes I noticed that too Betty. Disappeared right in front of my eyes.
Just like magic.

heavens

Mums, lawyers and the army, united in enjoyment of the batshittery and dismay at the harm causes

fancy!

Twenty quid mate!

£7.21!

www.theguardian.com/society/2022/sep/14/lie-of-gender-identity-spurred-founding-of-lgb-alliance-court-told

Another report in the Guardian, times have changed it seems.

Live footage from the court room. On the piece of paper is the word "lesbian"

It's obviously a secret conspiracy secretly organised in secret by the LGBA, because everyone knows that everybody in the world's familiar with the most recentest science and knows that there are 167,980,145 genders and we are all more than happy to share toilets and changing rooms and saunas and hospital wards and prison cells and domestic violence refuges and rape crisis centres with them as required . . . what with having gender neutral toilets at home and everything . . .

LOL!

And note that video starts with SG saying 'we are in court all this week'!

Yes - I'd missed that when I saw it (which was before all of the "the Queen ate my pronouns" excuses came tumbling out) - but it proves that the "delayed" release was noting to do with Her Majesty's death at all - it was planned.)

*nothing

Mr Gibbons is surprisingly aerodynamic for a bald man with a moustache.