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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Mermaids versus LGB alliance in court today??

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GrabbyGabby · 09/09/2022 07:46

www.theguardian.com/society/2022/sep/09/trans-charity-mermaids-appeal-lgb-alliance-status

Not sure if it is today or next week. Do we know if this is open like the tribunals?

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LaughingPriest · 12/09/2022 16:41

If it was me (and thank the Lord it isn't - AR is great) I would want to get on record every time he couldn't answer "Are you saying, under oath, that you do not know [what gay means, what a man is, etc]?"

ArabellaScott · 12/09/2022 16:41

You don't think that anyone with GC views should be running a charity in this sector?

No.

Wow. Is that allowed?

ArabellaScott · 12/09/2022 16:42

Hoping Vivian Wulf keeps tweeting this week, I find it really helpful to have a variety of reports from perhaps different angles.

NecessaryScene · 12/09/2022 16:42

Wow. Is that allowed?

I think he's allowed to express that view, just not act on it.

(Unlike our views which can be thought, but not expressed).

AgnestaVipers · 12/09/2022 16:43

I cannot wait to see the unintended consequences of this wankery unfold.

ArabellaScott · 12/09/2022 16:44

'R - trans women have multiple different bodies, when they transition'

How does THAT work?

ImherewithBoudica · 12/09/2022 16:45

ArabellaScott · 12/09/2022 16:41

You don't think that anyone with GC views should be running a charity in this sector?

No.

Wow. Is that allowed?

That's what's here to be assessed. Thanking him that we got to it on day 1: this is about the top and bottom of it.

I think they're about to discover however that other people have rights too.

babyjellyfish · 12/09/2022 16:47

I think he's allowed to express that view, just not act on it.

Since this entire case is about Mermaids acting on that belief, it's hard to imagine any result other than them being told to swim off to the far side of fuck really.

LaughingPriest · 12/09/2022 16:48

For those wanting to catch up on the tweets, here's the Threadreader app that puts each morning's/ afternoon's in one place:

1- 9th Sept web.archive.org/web/20220912082203/threadreaderapp.com/thread/1568148282894942210.html

2 - 12 Sept, morning: threadreaderapp.com/thread/1569249118861639681.html

2- 12 Sept, afternoon: threadreaderapp.com/thread/1569310682205519873.html

Olderbadger1 · 12/09/2022 17:00

'R - trans women have multiple different bodies, when they transition'

And society, safeguarding, legislation, education, healthcare, communications, spaces, services and opportunities are being turned upside-down at the behest of clowns like these. Gob-smacking.

DarkDayforMN · 12/09/2022 17:10

Here’s the list of witnesses. It is John Nicholson MP. I don’t know anything about him but I gather many of you do, I hope he’s as gormless as Paul!

11.1. John Nicolson MP [1/149]. Member of Parliament for Ochil and South Perthshire and Deputy Chair of the All-Party Parliamentary Group on Global LGBT+ Rights. His evidence focuses on LGB Alliance’s political campaigning.
11.2. Dr Belinda Bell [1/123]. Chair of trustees of Mermaids. Her evidence focuses on LGB Alliance’s approach towards (and impact on) trans people. She also addresses the facts relevant to Mermaids’ standing, including why it has felt the need to bring this appeal and the effects that the Decision has had on it.
11.3. Paul Roberts OBE [1/100]. CEO of LGBT Consortium, an umbrella body for LGBT groups in the UK. His evidence focuses on LGB Alliance’s approach towards (and impact on) lesbian, gay and bisexual people.
11.4. BeverleyJackson[1/162].Co-founderandtrusteeofLGBAlliance.SheaddressesLGB Alliance’s philosophy, history, objectives and activities in a range of fields.
11.5. Kate Harris [1/216]. Co-founder and trustee of LGB Alliance. Her evidence largely focuses on giving a more detailed account of LGB Alliance’s history.
11.6. EileenGallagherOBE[1/234].ChairoftrusteesofLGBAlliance,havingjoinedinMay 2021. Her evidence focuses on LGB Alliance’s current activities.

lgballiance.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Volume-4-Submissions-CA.2021.0013.pdf page 10.

AlisonDonut · 12/09/2022 17:12

GrabbyGabby · 12/09/2022 12:43

This thread has had nearly 3 times as many posts since 11.30 as the foodbank post that is appearing in Trending. Does the MN algorithm exclude threads from the naughty corner?

One of the Directors of Mumsnet is also a Director of the Good Law Project.

So they wouldn't allow this thread to trend, I'm sorry to say.

Ameanstreakamilewide · 12/09/2022 17:16

They wouldn't allow it to trend?? 🤨

Man alive!

TheClogLady · 12/09/2022 17:16

mad as a box of frogs!

can’t wait for tomorrow’s instalment Grin

countdown to when the TRAs turn on Mermaids and kick all the parent activists off the board because, obviously, this entire clusterfuckery of a legal case is the fault of the ‘cis’ people who run these orgs and everything would’ve been fine if they had given transfolx the mike…

Fenlandia · 12/09/2022 17:20

nauticant · 12/09/2022 15:00

AR: We don't side aside places for feminine people to be safe from masculine people do we?

PR: Long pause and then "but transwomen".

Awesome question, I think I will use this one myself to the next loon insisting that 'behaviours not bodies' should define who uses which intimate space.

Helleofabore · 12/09/2022 17:20

It is John Nicholson MP. I don’t know anything about him but I gather many of you do, I hope he’s as gormless as Paul!

Nicholson is vicious. Very viciously vile. And that is NOT just for the lovely 'v' sounds.

AlisonDonut · 12/09/2022 17:20

Last post on here 17:16 - not showing in Active

Last post on the thread at the bottom of active - 17:14

So not in Active either.

xalo · 12/09/2022 17:21

It's in active now

xalo · 12/09/2022 17:22

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Signalbox · 12/09/2022 17:32

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Do we know what was the abusive tweet the "so called" LGBA sent to JN MP?

Signalbox · 12/09/2022 17:33

I wonder if JN MP's evidence will be on the basis of the "abusive" tweet?

ickky · 12/09/2022 17:33

Hi @chilling19 👋

It seems I missed some astonishing admissions today.

How do these people get their jobs? They are ignoramuses or liars.

Best quote if the thread so far

parade of nonsense 😂

Like a shitter version of The Generation Game.

yourhairiswinterfire · 12/09/2022 17:34

It is John Nicholson MP. I don’t know anything about him but I gather many of you do, I hope he’s as gormless as Paul!

He's as batshit as the rest of them. 'People who know what a woman is are funded by the religious right', yada yada. Obsessed with LGBA.

ArabellaScott · 12/09/2022 17:35

Signalbox · 12/09/2022 17:32

Do we know what was the abusive tweet the "so called" LGBA sent to JN MP?

again with the 'so-called'.

That's their name!

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