Composer suspended over tweet backing Rowling’s gender views

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In the Times, quite prominently placed in the News section:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/c1b8ba7a-2edd-11ed-9b12-7a2e56f7aeb6?shareToken=b42189960611611eed39d04eee3b7ba0

Hope he sues using Forstater ruling

Good explanations too. They could have made it a little clearer that transwomen are male though. There may still be people who don't know that.

It is a very surprising strategy for spitfire to take, and I wonder who has advised them that it was a good idea?

Just goes to show that, although we here at mumsnet are well aware of what is going on, in the wider world people just aren't aware of the harms being done in the name of this ideology and the way people are being silenced.

Do you think the spitfire CEO had heard of Forstater and Bailey before he tweeted out? Do you think he has now?

He has now, as JK pointed him in that direction!

Gosh she is so good at short pithy statements isn’t she!

Damn I can't wait for this to go to court.
Fascist idiots.

I support Christian!

Poor Christian. He's a bloody founder of the company too.

It's socially unacceptable to state biological truth and/or speak out against medical experiments being conducted on children. How the fuck did this happen?

I hope there is a massive grovelling climbdown and public apology.

Yuk. That apology is pathetic. I need a shower after that.

Fully support Christian.

Poor guy, standing up for children not to be damaged and he gets this. Hope the CEO gets his day in court.

It's not just Glinner, that's how it was reported in the media.

I imagine this is going to go really well for Spitfire

spitfire was doubling down last I saw.
probably making it harder to row back when they find out the truth.

Fired for expressing a perfectly legal opinion

it’s an interesting approach

As far as I've seen, the media reports it as '1000 expected' - which is in line with the estimate from the lawyers. I've not seen the video so I don't know what that says. So, not 'misinformation'.

Sorry can't work out how to do share token for original report on that

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tavistock-gender-clinic-to-be-sued-by-1-000-families-lbsw6k8zd

Getting the facts straight is important

Something the TRAs would do well to remember re JKR

I mean not misinformation in the media... don't know about the video.

Good to see it being reported in The Times, but is the final paragraph wrong? I don't recall Allison Bailey claiming that the cotton ceiling was mentioned at a Garden Court event.

Graham said again that 1000 families are suing Tavistock on last night's TMWI.

That was the number widely reported in the media.

I'm also irritated by people stating "1000 families are suing the Tavistock". It's simply not true. Spreading misinformation of things that people want to be true but aren't (see truthiness) introduces weaknesses into the gender critical cause. That's supposed to be the domain of trans activists.

1000 families could potentially sue Tavistock because that is how many people used the service, you could equally say 1 million families sue the NHS everyday.

No. This says 20,000.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/07/28/nhs-faces-crackdown-giving-puberty-blockers-children-tavistock/

Getting facts straight is important, right?

The law firm have clarified that the suit would go beyond just those who have used endocrinology services.

Agreed, but it's how the story was reported in the media, e.g.:
web.archive.org/web/20220827022729/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11101661/Tavistock-transgender-clinic-facing-mass-legal-action-1-000-families.html

The "up to1,000" figure seems to come from the law firm Pogust Goodhead, which specialises in class actions. Of course, they have a vested interest in making the estimate high - but I believe around 19,000 families got treatment via the Tavistock over the years so maybe the roughly 5% is in line with the firm's experience of similar group claims?