Boston Children's Hospital receives bomb threat after being "targeted" by Libs Of Tik Tok

[PeopleRock]

www.nbcboston.com/news/local/police-investigate-after-bomb-threat-to-boston-childrens-hospital/2822245/

Libs Of Tik Tok are being unfairly blamed for this after they exposed that the hospital offered 'gender affirming” hysterectomies on minors including 16-year-olds and “younger kids”'

twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1562885542806560768?s=19

You don't know for fact if hysterectomies are being performed on minors at Boston Children's Hospital

We do know for a fact that they perform mastectomies on 15-year-old girls. It's on their website.

Chest reconstruction surgery is a procedure in which physicians remove excess breast tissue and create a more masculine appearance for your chest. Chest reconstruction can allow transmasculine people to live more easily in their affirmed gender. It is often the only surgical step in the gender affirmation process.

The clinicians in the Center for Gender Surgery at Boston Children's Hospital offer chest reconstruction surgery as a gender affirmation procedure to eligible patients who have documented and persistent gender dysphoria and who are over age 18 (or over age 15 with parental consent).

www.childrenshospital.org/treatments/chest-reconstruction

Do you think it is appropriate to remove the breasts of teenage girls who have no physical illness?

Again, I didn't say that. And I didn't call you stupid but I can if we need to go there. I am not stupid. For instance "stated" means that someone has actually stated something. I haven't stated that and for you to say that I have is deceitful.

Im talking more generally than you here, though you are illustrating the point very well.

Boston Children's Hospital has not admitted to performing hysterectomies on minors.

A member of staff (in fact was it two?) said they were, on an audio recording. It was also referenced on their website, though i believe they have changed it since. However screenshots exist.

So, with this in mind, what are you arguing?

1. There can be absolutely no truth in this (despite evidence provided by they themselves).

2. Even if we can't 100% guarantee there's no truth in it, our impeccable left leaning credentials mean we should stay out. If children are ultimately harmed by this decision, they are collateral damage and not as important as maintaining our purity.

3. There may well be truth in it, but we're fine with that. If underage hysterectomies are advancing the trans cause, then let's go for it?

Which is it?

Because from everything you've said on here, it looks like 2 to me.

Yes

this may be news to you, but places that aren’t the US exist

i will have opinions and carry out activism that suit my aims in the UK, cos that’s where I live

your bizarre lecture seems to imply that women here should temper their opinions and actions to suit the US

It's a form of American exceptionalism and demonstrates a colonialist mindset.

They don't have such audio recordings because that's a different hospital.

Perhaps I should call you stupid. Let's settle on misinformed.

Although I think that this thread was created for a specific purpose and that is to play defense for Libs of Tik Tok, which is now paid content by the way.

One of the more frustrating tactics that I see on this forum is the insistence that you're not allowed to talk, you're being silenced, shouted down, attacked, DARVOed, etc. I have done nothing of the sort. I am more than willing to share my perception of this forum and how this activism affects us here in the US. I've read hundreds of threads and I am the only one I see being called stupid or told to shush. Hahahahaha "women won't wheesht", unless of course they don't toe the line on FWR. There is no coming back from this because we are now getting into terrorism and armed conflict, which is all too familiar in the US. So if you don't like being regarded as the alt right, don't get in their basket.

You never answered my question about who you regard as "the poor people" in the US.

@Boxowine Gish Gallop....

They don't have such audio recordings because that's a different hospital.

Okay, they have it on their website. The other hospital admitted on tape. Do you agree both should be investigated further? Or no?

There is no coming back from this because we are now getting into terrorism and armed conflict, which is all too familiar in the US. So if you don't like being regarded as the alt right, don't get in their basket.

So just trying to understand this fully.

Because you don't want to be associated with the alt right, you're advocating turning a blind eye to hospitals admitting (on websites or recorded conversations) to doing hysterectomies on minors? Is that correct?

Because condemning something the alt right also condemns is not an option for you?

You never answered my question about who you regard as "the poor people" in the US.

You're now bringing in discussions from other threads as a deflection but I'll play this once.

On that other thread I meant that when white middle class people in the UK want to add some "identity flair" to their mundane social identities, they use colloquialisms like "y'all" to give the impression that they're somehow akin to folksy people from the Southern US. This is ludicrous.

It's as ludicrous as when privately educated rich kids in Richmond (UK, not US) talk about "the Feds".

I never said that you shouldn't. I don't care what you do in the UK. I care about what happens in the US. This particular incident occurred in the US, therefore it is of concern to me. What's happening on this page is social media damage control, including multiple posters claiming they need to get in before anyone comments on left leaning fems associating with the alt right. Well, that's what it is.

I don't care about your anti trans activism. I'm not a trans activist. But when this site and activists like Post Parker decide they want to get involved in what's happening in the US, especially when it involves a terrorist act like a bomb threat, I get to have a say.

@nauticant I don't think that's what you meant at all, white Southerners tend to be extremely conservative. Especially rural ones. But that expression is part of another vernacular, and I think that's what you were referring to. But it's okay. I see you

But it's okay. I see you

You don't see me because you're blinded by your own righteousness.

I am more than willing to share my perception of this forum

that’s abundantly clear, thank you

you make interesting and useful points such as pointing out the funding model for Libs of Tiktok and the Astro turfing that’s clearly going on in social media, but then hamstring your self by segueing directly to accusing all and sundry of being alt right and in some sort of ‘basket’

maybe if you started from a position of mutual respect rather than throwing phrases like ‘anti trans’ around, you’d get a warmer welcome?

Again, you are incorrect with your facts. Boston Children's Hospital did not have it on their website that they perform hysterectomies on minors children, nor is there an audio recording from their staff admitting that they do so.

You are repeating false information which has most likely inspired a terroristic threat against a hospital that provides medical services for an enormous number of children. Such activity impacts the operation of that hospital and the care those children receive.

By repeating false information, you are electing to become part of the problem. Therefore, I regard you as an enemy.

You also called me stupid when you are the one repeating lies that are easily fact checked.

You don't need to reframe anything. I don't perform these medical procedures, I don't support them, I have spoken against them repeatedly. I just don't promote the alt right while doing so because I understand that doing so causes as much harm as it prevents.
We don't have to burn the village in order to save it.

There's a reason why the posters on this site ( not all of whom are women ) appreciate Libs of Tik Tok and Kiwi Farms so much and it's not just the trans stuff. It's the whole package.

Why should I demonstrate respect for you or seek welcome from people ( again not all of you are women ) on a forum about women's rights when your activities affect my rights as a woman in my country? The posters here refuse to take any kind of ownership of how they impact women in the US. So defensive. If you want to be alt right, just own it.

No I don't. Do you think that it's right to call in bomb threats to a children's hospital?

@OldCrone is your solution violence?

It's been confirmed a hoax, nothing to do with LOTT

Alt right is a very American concept.

Most women on here are lefties. Disillusioned but still well on the left.

Why should we stand down and let children be mutilated just to avoid being called 'alt right'? It's water off a ducks back.

Looks like nobody did call in bomb threatsyou can apologise in your next post if you want.

I think posters here are concerned by events in the US not just out of concern for the girls and women who live there but also because US culture has a much bigger influence on ours than vice versa. So much internet content is from the US and the language and ideas have permeated, especially amongst the young. My pre-teen, for example, now refers to bathrooms rather than loos or toilets and even sometimes talks in a semi American accent when giving an opinion on something.

I am interested in how deploring mastectomies for children affects your rights

that’s pretty much all I’ve seen posters do here

i don’t really know what alt right means I’m afraid. It’s not much of a thing in the UK

throwing around phrases like ‘that makes you my enemy’ makes it almost impossible to have a constructive conversation with you. Is that your aim?

I think we have to shut up and let children be mutilated, because objecting to the mutilation of children is the same as making bomb threats against a children's hospital.

Or something.

I think we have to shut up and let children be mutilated, because objecting to the mutilation of children is the same as making bomb threats against a children's hospital.

I think it's that objecting to the surgery is something the alt right might do, so to also do that would be to besmirch our pure left credentials.

If that means the surgery continues, then so be it. Priorities.