“The only way I can describe this is that it’s like grief. It’s like something has been ripped away.”

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Tw react to only women being allowed in women’s rugby.

www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2022/08/24/trans-women-rugby-cleaned-5ft-4in-girls-how-can-dangerous/

As Helen Staniland comments underneath “This article will have helped thousands more people see the issue. Very glad ages and photos were included.”

I think their main thing is to try to systematically go through each of the sectors of society where we want to exist and kick us out.

This is quite telling. It's an admission that this person is not part of that sector. 'Wanting', or desire, or aspiration, has absolutely nothing to do with scientific classification.

I mean, nobody can kick this person out of a sector that they cannot physically belong to. It's like trying to opt out of gravity.

Love the sunlight this story sheds on it all

This with bells on

Equally, @ArabellaScott , no one can kick them out of the sector they belong to.

You can call me all sorts, but nothing you do or say can prevent me being a woman. I cannot be excluded from my sex category.

there are probably a good number of 54 year olds who could mix it with the youngsters at a modest level. something that i should think would hold here in all cases without exception is that the '25 years earlier' version of these players would wipe the floor with 'modest' competition. that's the real reason for the trans ban, it's to stop rugby getting its own Hannah Mouncey, a very large prime aged she-male who's a very serious danger to female players.

Where are the comments? Am I being stupid or have they been removed?

Don't understand your comment.

Are you a transwoman?

Ended her career? She's fifty fucking four!!

Where are the comments?

@grey12 , did you see Arabella's comment? "I mean, nobody can kick this person out of a sector that they cannot physically belong to. It's like trying to opt out of gravity."

I was agreeing with Arabella that TWs can't be kicked out of the category
Woman, as they are not in it and never were.

Equally, as a woman I can't be kicked out of the category by anyone. If they were actually women, they couldn't be kicked out of the category.

Does that clarify? I'm not a transwoman, no matter how bad I look in some of the harshly lit nightclub mirrors!

Comments seem to have gone now.

NOBODY says TW are "not woman enough". There isn't a scale of womanhood

Exactly. They're not women in any way, shape or form.

@picklemewalnuts Got it 👍 sorry, I honestly didn't understand the comment. Haven't been sleeping very well.....

With your name it sounded like you might have wanted to "pickle your (male) nuts" 😅

Comments seem to have gone now.

That's going to endear them to their readership even further. I'm sure they like being censored to promote a nonsense agenda every bit as much as the Times commenters do,

Oh look - they've removed the comments - 99.9% of which were critical of Fitzgerald's moaning about not being allowed to take a woman's place in women's rugby.

FB comments still up, and uniform in their support of women's sport!

I remember reading a 40 something year old man on twitter about this recently.

Yes, he said, he could keep up enough to start with, on the first game. By about week 3 he was tired and not bouncing back, and then the injuries started. And he didn't bounce back from minor injuries. By about week 7, he was off for the rest of the season with a major injury.

The next season was even shorter for him.

This was a fit 40 something that had been playing regularly up to then but finding it harder each season.

Some language reorganisation to recognise the editorial change in reporting language and content influences the readers perceptions :

... a former semi-professional player at the [ men’s ] male side Randburg Diggers in South Africa, Curtiss... as trans in 2016,...... only after Covid restrictions were lifted that she decided to return to rugby... joined Seaford RFC.... one particularly unsavoury experience stood out.

“One of the male coaches couldn’t get his head around the fact that I wasn’t as strong as I appeared to be,” she says. “He thought, ‘Oh this is going to be great, because I can have a trans [ female ] and male player and they’re [ single, sex known = male = he is ] going to boulder their [ single, sex known = male = his ] way through the female opposition.’ He kept going at me, ‘Why can’t you just run through these [ people ] female players ?’ I just wasn’t at that level , (early 50's and starting playing after a long break (pre2016? - 2021)), where I was significantly stronger than [ anyone else ] the (mainly younger) female players.”

If I was an actuarial Department Head for those Clubs I would be looking at the risk weighting and payout liability for someone who likely has anaemia and the associated risks of dizzy spells, fainting etc plus the likleyhood that the anaemia is as a result of poor bone health due to the side effects of a medication being used off lable.

Big Pharma pays way more insurance fees than Rugby Clubs so I know which client I would seek to retain long term.

These males really have no self awareness at all.

Males in the 50s both and complaining about how they are weaker than the women they play with and against.... but simply cannot understand that the comparator is that they are unfairly advantaged because they should be comparing themselves against females their own age. Of which there are none.

I am in awe of your internet talents. In awe I say!

Can you guess I've just read the article using your very handy tip!

Thank you for posting x

Me too, all you said and more, entitled wankers!

I wonder what the monitors see when they read threads like this?

Does it shake their confidence at all?

'The phone rang. It was a member from her rugby club who wanted to check in on her. “My wife, Anne, picked it up. I couldn’t take the call. It was the second worst day of my life,” she reflects.' So many supportive women in Alix's life.