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JKR receiving death threats for supporting Salman Rushdie

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WandaWomblesaurus · 14/08/2022 00:41

news.sky.com/story/jk-rowling-working-with-police-over-death-threat-after-voicing-support-for-salman-rushdie-12672229

How fucking predictable.

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Abhannmor · 15/08/2022 09:48

Yes @Igneococcus the silence from those creeps at Amnesty , the ACLU and the Society of Authors was shocking if not surprising

ThighMistress · 15/08/2022 10:32

Joanne Harris is always trying to be on the “right” side of history. She comes across like one of those cringeworthy teachers who tries to be “down wid de kidz” and just looks like a desperate prat. That poll was a new low.

Imnobody4 · 15/08/2022 10:39

Excellent article by Bari Weiss. www.thetimes.co.uk/article/210ab9ca-1c1d-11ed-b7c3-8b288ab55a56?shareToken=d6cbac3344af13b9b2a5bd7769f33d6c

We live in a culture in which many of the most celebrated people occupying the highest perches believe that words are violence. In this, they have much in common with Ayatollah Khomeini, who issued the first fatwa against Sir Salman Rushdie in 1989, and with Hadi Matar, the 24-year-old who appears to have fulfilled his command when he stabbed the author in the neck on a stage in western New York.

The first group believe they are motivated by inclusion and tolerance — that it’s possible to create something even better than liberalism, a utopia where no one is ever offended. The second we all recognise as religious fanatics. But it is the indulgence and cowardice of the words are violence crowd that has empowered the second and allowed us to reach this moment, when a fanatic rushes the stage of a literary conference with a knife and plunges it into one of the bravest writers alive

Both Salman Rushdie and JKR signed the open letter on freedom of speech (the Harpers letter) as far as I can see Philip Pullman didn't.

Andante57 · 15/08/2022 10:43

‘"Hate" is seriously over used, but actual threats need to be clamped down on effectively and quickly whether by police, social media or whoever. It might be just an inadequate teenager sitting in his bedroom, but the fear created can be debilitating’

I agree. I’m not much of a techie - can tweets be traced to their authors? Or does a VPN prevent that?

CrossPurposes · 15/08/2022 10:44

Imnobody4 · 15/08/2022 10:39

Excellent article by Bari Weiss. www.thetimes.co.uk/article/210ab9ca-1c1d-11ed-b7c3-8b288ab55a56?shareToken=d6cbac3344af13b9b2a5bd7769f33d6c

We live in a culture in which many of the most celebrated people occupying the highest perches believe that words are violence. In this, they have much in common with Ayatollah Khomeini, who issued the first fatwa against Sir Salman Rushdie in 1989, and with Hadi Matar, the 24-year-old who appears to have fulfilled his command when he stabbed the author in the neck on a stage in western New York.

The first group believe they are motivated by inclusion and tolerance — that it’s possible to create something even better than liberalism, a utopia where no one is ever offended. The second we all recognise as religious fanatics. But it is the indulgence and cowardice of the words are violence crowd that has empowered the second and allowed us to reach this moment, when a fanatic rushes the stage of a literary conference with a knife and plunges it into one of the bravest writers alive

Both Salman Rushdie and JKR signed the open letter on freedom of speech (the Harpers letter) as far as I can see Philip Pullman didn't.

Thanks for sharing. And what a final couple of lines:

Of course it’s now, when we’re surrounded by silliness and weakness and self-obsession, that a man gets on stage and plunges a knife into Rushdie, plunges it into his liver, plunges it into his arm, plunges it into his eye. That is violence.

achillestoes · 15/08/2022 10:52

The Society of Authors has issued a statement:

‘We were appalled by the attempted murder of Sir Salman Rushdie on Friday – a man who for many years has spoken out for persecuted writers and defended freedom of expression.

We stand with every author and their right to create freely. None should find themselves under personal attack or under threat of attack for their words and work.’

Commenting on the attack, SoA chief executive Nicola Solomon said:

The hateful attack on Salman Rushdie has shocked the SoA community. This assault against one man was also an assault on the creative process, and on authors’ rights to express ideas and opinions, and to tell stories.

Perhaps an attack like this is rare, but sadly the threats, abuse and harassment that many authors receive is not. For every high-profile death threat – like those targeted at J K Rowling only hours after the attack on Rushdie – scores of others go unreported.

We condemn every type of personal attack on authors for exercising their rights to express themselves freely – whether physical, verbal, legal or political.

Our thoughts are with Rushdie and his family.’

The ship is turning.

achillestoes · 15/08/2022 10:55

Joanne Harris says bullies operate in packs and it makes them look smaller.

It does. JK Rowling looks like a giant today.

KittenKong · 15/08/2022 11:26

She’d know wouldn’t she?

achillestoes · 15/08/2022 11:30

It’s actually fascinating to watch the great and the good come back to the table. They’re issuing statements in support of free speech. They're at pains to mention that they don’t hate JKR, they just disagree with her. They believe in freedom of creative expression and free speech.

WHERE. WERE. THEY?

TheKeatingFive · 15/08/2022 11:33

Yes let's not forget those who came late to the party. After the tide turned.

achillestoes · 15/08/2022 12:55

Harris is now saying - with some emphasis - that she supports all free speech, and always has, and the SoA aren’t allowed to take sides in matters of personal opinion.

That does not explain why they refused to comment on the free speech rights of multiple bullied writers during the course of this controversy on exactly such matters of opinion. They threw them to the wolves.

Nor does it explain their ridiculous statements in the past when such things have happened.

achillestoes · 15/08/2022 12:56

And Harris her/themselves ran with the wolves. What a horrible person.

SolasAnla · 15/08/2022 12:59

I see yestetday JH was claiming :

>>She had people turn up at her home and threaten her family's safety.

I did I miss her me too moment when it happened to JKR too?

>>She had people issue death threats.

I did I miss her me too moment when it happened to JKR too?

When asked about issuing a statement condeming these actions which both she and JKR have had to deal with.

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She want raised the bar to "getting almost stabbed to death"

And the Walter Mitty award goes tooooo .....

Theeyeballsinthesky · 15/08/2022 13:39

JH has a trans child & is utterly unable to be even faintly objective about JKR

She has behaved appallingly about JKR, Rachel Rooney & all the authors who’ve fallen foul of TRA

even now she lacks the self awareness to see how badly wrong she has got this

ScreamingMeMe · 15/08/2022 14:23

Helen Joyce had this to say. I don't doubt thebtruth of it.

"Better (disgracefully) late than never.I know several authors who have pleaded with the SoA, and Joanne Harris, to condemn death threats and cancellation of gender-critical women, only to be told, in so many words, they brought their troubles on themselves "

t.co/1rn1QjD1PH

ScreamingMeMe · 15/08/2022 14:25

Imnobody4 · 15/08/2022 10:39

Excellent article by Bari Weiss. www.thetimes.co.uk/article/210ab9ca-1c1d-11ed-b7c3-8b288ab55a56?shareToken=d6cbac3344af13b9b2a5bd7769f33d6c

We live in a culture in which many of the most celebrated people occupying the highest perches believe that words are violence. In this, they have much in common with Ayatollah Khomeini, who issued the first fatwa against Sir Salman Rushdie in 1989, and with Hadi Matar, the 24-year-old who appears to have fulfilled his command when he stabbed the author in the neck on a stage in western New York.

The first group believe they are motivated by inclusion and tolerance — that it’s possible to create something even better than liberalism, a utopia where no one is ever offended. The second we all recognise as religious fanatics. But it is the indulgence and cowardice of the words are violence crowd that has empowered the second and allowed us to reach this moment, when a fanatic rushes the stage of a literary conference with a knife and plunges it into one of the bravest writers alive

Both Salman Rushdie and JKR signed the open letter on freedom of speech (the Harpers letter) as far as I can see Philip Pullman didn't.

Is that the letter that Pullman originally signed, then weasled out of by saying he didn't know what he was agreeing to?

achillestoes · 15/08/2022 14:32

I think it was. He believes in free speech for people he agrees with.

EsmaCannonball · 15/08/2022 14:37

Joanne Harris was also really glib about cancel culture. If you asked her about Vaclav Havel being made to work in a bakery instead of writing plays she'd probably say she envied an author who could knock up his own cottage loaf.

ScreamingMeMe · 15/08/2022 15:01

achillestoes · 15/08/2022 10:55

Joanne Harris says bullies operate in packs and it makes them look smaller.

It does. JK Rowling looks like a giant today.

Yes, like the authors who bullied Rachel Rooney, which she did eff all about.

I'm glad she's finally getting exposed.

JKR receiving death threats for supporting Salman Rushdie
KittenKong · 15/08/2022 15:31

Go Simon! Harris is coming across as rather unpleasant.

EsmaCannonball · 15/08/2022 15:48

The Society of Authors wasn't asked to weigh in on the opinions of individual authors, it was expected to support authors who were losing work for having an opinion. On this, and other issues, Harris keeps arguing points that people aren't making.

Malahaha · 15/08/2022 19:53

Authors are protesting, both individually and in groups, with letters calling for Harris to step down or removed as SoA Chair. Watch this space. Harris must go.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11111163/Society-Authors-chief-Joanne-Harris-faces-calls-quit-deleting-disgusting-Twitter-poll.html

VestofAbsurdity · 15/08/2022 20:09

Wonder how Harris feels now having her opinions, comments and actions criticised? Does anyone think she will have the self reflection and nous to understand what JKR has been subjected to for fucking years and see that she, Harris, has been part of the problem? I highly doubt it, we'll have a load of hand wringing nonsense with not a shred of self enlightenment nor apology.

ScreamingMeMe · 15/08/2022 20:46

Harris is still being awful.

JKR receiving death threats for supporting Salman Rushdie
JKR receiving death threats for supporting Salman Rushdie
Theeyeballsinthesky · 15/08/2022 20:52

Harris lack of self awareness is absolutely extraordinary