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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

TRAs protest at women's rugby training

69 replies

flyingbuttress43 · 12/08/2022 19:29

www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2022/08/11/trans-activists-crash-england-womens-twickenham-training-session/

TRAs turned up on the training session at Twickenham to express "heartbreak" over rugby's new gender (sic) restrictions.

One of the protesters, 46 -year-old Emily Hamilton, was among 15 protestors waving pink and blue flags and claimed top names in the sport were privately supportive of her cause.

"I'm a Harlequins fan, a transwoman and an ex-player of 18 seasons, but as of last week I'm prohibted from playing rugby now" said the founding co-chair of the QuinsPride supporters group.

No you're not sunshine - you are just prohibited from playing with women. No one is stopping you playing with your own sex.

"It's a heartbreaking situation," the protester added.

Well, boo hoo.

Apparently they are going to go staging protests. "We will not be going away until our voices are heard."

Your voices have been heard, loud and clear and a ban is the result.

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dropthevipers · 12/08/2022 19:35

I dare say at least some of the women rugby players (Cunty types) have boyfriends and husbands prepared to offer a somewhat more robust rebuttal than bloko harem is used to. Bring it on.

SquirrelSoShiny · 12/08/2022 19:36

Yes. In their eyes their right to (literally) trample over women's is paramount.

SquirrelSoShiny · 12/08/2022 19:36

SquirrelSoShiny · 12/08/2022 19:36

Yes. In their eyes their right to (literally) trample over women's is paramount.

Women's Rights*

Deliriumoftheendless · 12/08/2022 19:43

dropthevipers · 12/08/2022 19:35

I dare say at least some of the women rugby players (Cunty types) have boyfriends and husbands prepared to offer a somewhat more robust rebuttal than bloko harem is used to. Bring it on.

Or maybe they should welcome them into the men’s rugby with open arms.

wouldn’t that be kind? And really, why shouldn’t they?

ResisterRex · 12/08/2022 19:48

Well we can't have male hearts broken! Best snap women's necks instead Hmm

dropthevipers · 12/08/2022 19:49

Deliriumoftheendless · 12/08/2022 19:43

Or maybe they should welcome them into the men’s rugby with open arms.

wouldn’t that be kind? And really, why shouldn’t they?

Let's keep this very simple so there is no chance of misunderstanding. "why shouldn't they?" because they are blokes, that's why not.

Somanysocks · 12/08/2022 19:50

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mcduffy · 12/08/2022 19:50

God, imagine if you had a time machine from 2012! You'd think everyone had lost the plot.

MissyB1 · 12/08/2022 19:51

Let them try and get in the men’s teams, nothing stopping them is there?

dropthevipers · 12/08/2022 19:51

dropthevipers · 12/08/2022 19:49

Let's keep this very simple so there is no chance of misunderstanding. "why shouldn't they?" because they are blokes, that's why not.

Apologies delirium, I misread your statement, I agree, they should be welcome to play with the men.

Deliriumoftheendless · 12/08/2022 20:11

dropthevipers · 12/08/2022 19:51

Apologies delirium, I misread your statement, I agree, they should be welcome to play with the men.

No worries- I did worry I sounded snippy but I didn’t mean to- just seems to be the ideal solution. A good show of men supporting their trans players, whilst women get on with their own games.

but yeah, I think you’re right when you say “because they’re blokes”. Many men simply won’t see it as their problem.

be interesting to hear why men’s rugby wouldn’t be appropriate. No one can argue transwomen aren’t safe on the pitch without acknowledging the lack of safety for women if transwomen play against them.

tobee · 12/08/2022 20:13

How absolutely pathetic and unsurprising

huuskymam · 12/08/2022 20:15

This annoys me, they are absolutely not banned from playing. They are able to play on the mens team, but they'd rather get special dispensation to play with and against women. They couldn't give a flying fuck how those women feel about it all, harder tackles, taking spots, dicks in their changing rooms.

dropthevipers · 12/08/2022 20:25

Deliriumoftheendless · 12/08/2022 20:11

No worries- I did worry I sounded snippy but I didn’t mean to- just seems to be the ideal solution. A good show of men supporting their trans players, whilst women get on with their own games.

but yeah, I think you’re right when you say “because they’re blokes”. Many men simply won’t see it as their problem.

be interesting to hear why men’s rugby wouldn’t be appropriate. No one can argue transwomen aren’t safe on the pitch without acknowledging the lack of safety for women if transwomen play against them.

Trans won't want to play with the blokes because they insist on the validation that playing with women gives them. Like that's fooling anyone.

DrDetriment · 12/08/2022 20:32

As many people have said, nobody is stopping them playing, just telling them to play in the appropriate sex category, so they don't hurt women and make the game unfair (plus they are men so it makes sense). Unfortunately, that doesn't validate them.

Deliriumoftheendless · 12/08/2022 20:35

And that’s the argument they will have to make.

and then (hopefully) it will be clear that validation is more important than women’s safety, or privacy when changing and surely that’s an argument with limited sympathy.

MrsTerryPratchett · 12/08/2022 20:35

MissyB1 · 12/08/2022 19:51

Let them try and get in the men’s teams, nothing stopping them is there?

I'm assuming what's stopping them is that unfit 46 year olds don't get on the men's teams, whatever else is going on.

But no one likes to mention that.

I mean how many women get 18 seasons? Then to complain they can't have even more? And it's 'heartbreaking'?

VestofAbsurdity · 12/08/2022 21:35

The TW featured by Sky News prior to the ban (can't recall the name) that did the Monty Pythonesque warm up trying to make themselves look too weak and feeble to so much as lift a rugby ball, uncoordinated, slow lumbering around - if they were that fucking bad they wouldn't get in any team, pathetic and fooling no-one.

Athenajm80 · 12/08/2022 21:40

I was shocked that my sister who is involved in the medical side of sports, particularly rugby, retweeted a women's rugby club who were against the ban. The club claims that TW aren't a threat any more than the various female players they know who are 5'11" and 22 stone or whatever.

My sister is really knowledgeable about sports injuries and things like the recent guidance and focus on concussions/head injuries, but is very much a "be kind" person. I on the other hand know fuck all about sports and related injuries (plus I'm a grumpy anti-social twat) so it's not something I can easily debate with her which is frustrating. I just keep sharing my GC stuff in the hope she'll read it and the veil will be lifted.

MrsJamin · 12/08/2022 21:46

There's a picture of the 46 year old here www.shropshirestar.com/sport/uk-sports/2022/08/11/were-not-freaks--transgender-activists-protest-against-disgraceful-rugby-ban/

All they can talk about is their feelings, they have nothing else with which to try and convince people to let them play.

MarshaBradyo · 12/08/2022 21:47

Men cannot take no from women

It’s not surprising but seriously

There's a male team who can welcome them

JellySaurus · 12/08/2022 22:13

*SquirrelSoShiny
Yes. In their eyes their right to (literally) trample over women's is paramount.*
Women's Rights

Until I saw your edit, I read that as "In their eyes their right to (literally) trample over women is paramount."

Made sense.

VestofAbsurdity · 12/08/2022 22:23

MrsJamin · 12/08/2022 21:46

There's a picture of the 46 year old here www.shropshirestar.com/sport/uk-sports/2022/08/11/were-not-freaks--transgender-activists-protest-against-disgraceful-rugby-ban/

All they can talk about is their feelings, they have nothing else with which to try and convince people to let them play.

Going on about different sizes as if that is all the science is based on.

Just can't accept that women's sports are for women not men however they identify or feel.

NitroNine · 12/08/2022 22:24

In the Twitter discussion about the Irish rugby “ban” there are lots of TRAs claiming that TW simply cannot play with men because not only would it be outing them, it would be endangering them because of their reduced testosterone. Indeed there are people arguing that the very fact TW would be grievously imperilled should they attempt to play against men because their testosterone is lower proves this is all an evil transphobic plot & not about safety at all.

VestofAbsurdity · 12/08/2022 22:26

NitroNine · 12/08/2022 22:24

In the Twitter discussion about the Irish rugby “ban” there are lots of TRAs claiming that TW simply cannot play with men because not only would it be outing them, it would be endangering them because of their reduced testosterone. Indeed there are people arguing that the very fact TW would be grievously imperilled should they attempt to play against men because their testosterone is lower proves this is all an evil transphobic plot & not about safety at all.

An argument with more holes than a string vest.