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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Periods and having babies are the only differences between trans women and biological women apparently

100 replies

WaffleAndGelato · 12/08/2022 16:33

Perhaps it's a bit mean to put this here, but IW is posting this claptrap - although in India's defence I get the impression that the delusion has gone on so long that they genuinely believe what they're saying to be fact.

If a routine blood test at 8 weeks of pregnancy is able to determine whether the unborn baby is male or female, how on earth can trans ideologists continue to argue that they're able to change sex? Their blood still carries all those sex markers, it doesn't magically change! Preaching to the converted I know, but seriously this is rage inducing.

Periods and having babies are the only differences between trans women and biological women apparently
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AsTreesWalking · 13/08/2022 08:23

I've always wondered how the women on Big Brother managed to keep from laughing when India was screaming "I am a real woman" at them.

GCAcademic · 13/08/2022 08:25

AsTreesWalking · 13/08/2022 08:23

I've always wondered how the women on Big Brother managed to keep from laughing when India was screaming "I am a real woman" at them.

I only have vague recollections of this, but wasn't it because they were too scared by that display of male aggression?

VaddaABeetch · 13/08/2022 08:38

@GCAcademic yep it was 3 elderly women. Large male body looming using an interesting choice of words. ‘Let that penetrate’.

BoredofthisCrap7 · 13/08/2022 09:27

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VaddaABeetch · 13/08/2022 09:34

Narcissistic rage

BastardtheCat · 13/08/2022 09:41

Not RTFT.

Pre transition, IW was barely known. Post transition, IW has sought the limelight, whatever the cost - including screaming at 80 yr old Coronation street actress in the BB house and generally making a right diva tit of themselves (imho).

IW feeds on attention and this is just another means of getting it and keeping themselves in the public eye.

We all know it's bullshit on too many levels to mention here (but under the groupings of biology, emotionally, socially, economically etc) so AFAIF, IW and their attention-seeking are to be ignored. Feel a bit sorry for them actually.

BastardtheCat · 13/08/2022 09:42

*AFAIC

5zeds · 13/08/2022 09:55

I always think about single sex boarding schools and if they’ve ever considered why the atmosphere and experiences of the children forced to live in single sex societies is so dependent on their sex and how they compare. In these situations there is no opposite sex to perform your gender to. It’s notable that widespread assault including sexual assault is more prevalent and more endemic in the male only environments. While females tend to do better particularly in stem (traditionally seen as male) subjects and leadership, their male counterparts don’t without the female “lesser” classmates to push off. Females tend to become more independently able at life skills while men develop a learned incompetence often still unable to care for themselves in old age. There is demonstrably more to this than periods and childbirth.

Ohsugarhoneyicetea · 13/08/2022 10:07

I guess in extremely simplistic terms those the really big differences between men and women. But of course that is just the tip of the iceberg!

HorseInTheHouse · 13/08/2022 10:22

There is no difference between men and women. Except for the reproductive system and everything else in the body that has adapted to one of two distinct reproductive roles, which as it turns out is actually quite a lot.

It's staggering really. There is literally only one reason that there are two different kinds of human body and that reason is sexual reproduction. That's the entire basis of the existence of men and women. You have to be several sandwiches short of a picnic to think it is an irrelevant detail. Or lying.

Sonnex · 13/08/2022 10:38

No biological difference between men and women except periods and childbirth? Er, what about height, lung capacity, shoe size, adams apple or not, cardiac output, body size, pelvis shape, hip orientation, hand span, core strength and all those other things that stem from the Y chromosome and a testosterone-mediated puberty?

FatAgainItsLettuceTime · 13/08/2022 10:41

Also I'd have to ask if Transwomen and women are exactly the same then that means men and women are exactly the same. No substantial differences.

So why do so many women get killed by men, why are female children mutilated to stay 'pure', why do women need to hide under layers of clothing to be modest, why are women paid less for the same job, why are women typically shorter and smaller than men, why are women able to lift less and not move as fast?

TheKeatingFive · 13/08/2022 10:47

Well India's not exactly blessed with the smarts, now is she?

Wouldloveanother · 13/08/2022 10:47

I’ve also given up on trying to convince people that men cannot become women.

The concept is so ridiculous, not to mention impossible that anyone who entertains it even for a second is inherently unreasonable and is a lost cause.

Im also a bit done with trying to ‘convince’ people that men are dangerous to women. Same thing - if they can’t accept very clear and basic facts which have been true since time immemorial. I’m done with them.

and EVEN IF transwomen didn’t post any risk to women at all, I still wouldn’t think they are women or treat them as such.

because I think any kind of legislated fact denial Is extremely dangerous and inherently wrong in a remotely civilised society.

i will be concentrating my efforts on writing to the people in power to do something rather than clashing with crazies and fact deniers on Twitter.

SamphirethePogoingStickerist · 13/08/2022 10:58

VaddaABeetch · 12/08/2022 19:06

Is indias cervix like Eleanor Rigby’s face? Kept in a jar by the door?

Fuck. I just scared the dog 😂

FrancescaContini · 13/08/2022 12:36

@Wouldloveanother
Totally agree with your last post - especially “legislated fact denial”.

Dreikanter · 13/08/2022 15:38

For those asking “who is IW” then here’s the clip of IW explaining that they’re “a real woman” to the women in the CBB House.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=PsJxpvGzo3E

WallaceinAnderland · 13/08/2022 15:50

So IW finally admits that women are different to men.

The only difference between men's bodies and women's bodies is their biology.

Duh

IckyPop · 13/08/2022 16:05

VaddaABeetch · 12/08/2022 19:06

Is indias cervix like Eleanor Rigby’s face? Kept in a jar by the door?

🤣🤣🤣 you win the internet 💐 🏆

loislovesstewie · 13/08/2022 16:27

I've decided that I am a man because I no longer have periods and clearly my uterus is redundant. I therefore hope that I am, at long last, privileged.

ThinkingaboutLangClegosaurus · 13/08/2022 16:29

TheWeeDonkey · 12/08/2022 17:24

It does raise a question about how cross sex hormones affect a person's mental health though doesn't it?

That is a genuine concern. This is so blindingly obviously a mental health issue. How much is caused/ exacerbated by the 'treatment' (starting with affirmation) -- that will only be known after more years of this medical experimentation.

ThinkingaboutLangClegosaurus · 13/08/2022 16:33

I think any kind of legislated fact denial Is extremely dangerous

This above all else, along with the coercion to pretend we believe it. This is far outside what's acceptable in a 21st century democracy. This is the stuff of theocracies and dictatorships.

VaddaABeetch · 13/08/2022 17:09

@IckyPop why thank you. I do wonder if Mr Menno could do a little song about India to the tune of Eleanor Rigby

Melroses · 13/08/2022 17:11

"Periods and having babies are the only differences between trans women and biological women apparently"

That would be because women are adult human females and transwomen aren't.🤔

BoredofthisCrap7 · 13/08/2022 18:23

Not sure why my comment was deleted!
I merely said EXACTLY what happened on Big Brother, it's out there for anyone who want to watch it.

Obviously touched a nerve.