Tavistock clinic to close as not safe for children

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Breaking news in the Times and Telegraph:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/e1ed2bea-0e63-11ed-93cf-b011fa7fe86b?shareToken=4fa557c3083dee141defde72e0e53d54

Yeah, no shit.

She said Tavistock should be replaced by regional centres with an “appropriate multi-professional workforce to enable them to provide an integrated model of care that manages the holistic needs of this population”.

So, so pleased to see that struggling children are going to get the proper medical attention they deserve, hopefully fully backed by evidence this time rather than the guinea pigs they've been treated as so far.

I’m so so pleased with this news. I was so shocked by the Sonia Appleby and Keira Bell cases. I really don’t care how adults identify as long as single sex spaces remain so, and woman isn’t a forbidden word, but giving children hormones after 30 minutes because they’ve been duped into believing they aren’t perfect just as they are made me sick to my stomach, and I speak as someone with a child who was deep into this for 3 long and terrifying years.
Thank you to to all who stood up and said no.

The thing is, there is no doubt a condition exists called gender dysphoria, or whatever it was called originally. And it's so embedded that the only possible alleviation comes from blockers and hormones. But it has to be incredibly rare. The sort of thing that the Mail would report on once every five years.

I don't think anyone would deny a child some relief, after every other avenue has been explored.

But what this should do, hopefully, is reduce the number of children who think they are trans, and then reduce the number of children who require such extreme treatment.

Such fantastic news. As a nurse who's colleagues have been referring children to the Tavistock clinic (the only thing GPs can/will currently do for them), it was such a relief to hear that it is coming to an end. My heart sinks whenever I see the referrals, with no other support given.

I hope children will get much better and more considered care from now on. Most of my colleagues are not really aware of the many and complicated issues around 'trans' children, so I don't have anyone to talk to at work about this. But I've sat in my car on my lunch break listening to Keira Bell on R4 with tears in my eyes.

I would fully expect the total independence from partisan political lobby groups or any group at all with a personal stake in a fixed outcome to be one of the built in conditions from the start since the Tavistock whistle blowers were repeatedly pointing that one out from the first peep.

That has to happen, ideology has NO place in health care.

To Kiera Bell - your courage and determination in exposing this is beyond compare, thank you so very much.

Thank f

Wonderful news

Stand by for incoming Class Action law suits against the Tavistock.

Such brave action on behalf of children with gender dysphoria.

The treatment such children have been given in recent years can go directly into one of the darker corners of the History of Medicine.

Treatments based on clinical trials - science - and reason can take over.
'Trans children' deserve the same high standards as the rest of us.

The thing is, there is no doubt a condition exists called gender dysphoria, or whatever it was called originally. And it's so embedded that the only possible alleviation comes from blockers and hormones. But it has to be incredibly rare.

My first thoughts would be exploring OCD, ASD, CSA, complex PTSD and PTSD, emotional abuse, which is why a no questions asked affirmative stance to training is so very questionable.

Thank God. Gender questioning, vulnerable young people need a safe place where they can explore themselves with expert help to find the right path for themselves without heading down any irreversible routes when they're still just too young to know, and that hole of a place wasn't it.

@GrowlingManchego Exactly! Transitions are hard at the best of times, but the fact this is plastered all over the news is probably going to make it a lot harder.

Am hoping other Clinics take note of how the Stonewall / Mermaids inflitrated the service and don't keep going down the path they are going with their head's so far up people's arses they currently are not recognising any danger with the routes they are going...

Just took the attached screen shot.

😁2998 votes of which 97% agree the NHS are doing the right thing

I suspect that too, Ova.

What we know about was probably only the tip of the iceberg. I reckon Cass has gone in, and found a horror show of a service with severe and mind-blowing implications for the future health and wellbeing of young patients.

I'm very familiar with the diplomatic language used by governmental bodies. "I wouldn't advise that course of action" meaning 'if you fucking do that, you'll end up with a riot on your hands/half the power out in the Midlands/you'll start World War III.'

Cass's language is already hard enough. The place must have been a shit-show.

*to transing

I have mixed emotions about this. I'm happy that new treatment and evaluation will take place. We went through the system in 2013/2015 and rejected the Tavistock referral for my DD as I didn't trust them.
I feel fully vindicated, but that's not a good feeling. There's anger at the local clinicians who branded me transphobic and standing in the way of DDs care. Anger at the clinicians who still question DD and believe that she's transgender even when she says she's not.
I really hope there's reform and guidance for care groups across the country as well as the two regional hubs.

Exactly. It was the emergence of the fictional 'trans child' that is now being brought to an end. A child who is 'born in the wrong body', or a child who has an 'innate inner essence of the opposite sex.'

None of it is true. It's pure fantasy.

And it was required in order to uphold the notion of an adult person who is 'trans'.

You can't be born in the wrong body, if you suddenly realise it when you're 45.

This will have an impact, I'm sure. The removal of the concept of children who are born in the wrong body is going to take a digger to the foundations of transgenderism in general.

Prick News can bang on all they like about sweeping trans healthcare reforms, but most of these treatments will not be for being 'trans'.

Yes, indeed. And also to all of the women who have been raising this issue for years, to sometimes great personal cost.

What's the phrase?

Start thinking now of excuses for why you supported sterilising children

That's very good to hear.

It should have happened long ago.

A brutally honest statement from Kemi!

twitter.com/kemibadenoch/status/1552640803603988480?s=21&t=iCj0ArCMpfVwUKxi68EnOg

I hope she gets a cabinet post in the new government.

I'm still concerned about this....
"The interim report, by Dr Hillary Cass, has said the single service should be replaced by regional centers."

What we know about was probably only the tip of the iceberg. I reckon Cass has gone in, and found a horror show of a service with severe and mind-blowing implications for the future health and wellbeing of young patients.

She is a highly qualified paediatrician. I imagine she looked at the case notes of some of these children, and immediately identified what she thought the issue was, and then read what they were being diagnosed with and had a horrible wtf moment.

She will be looking at this through the lens of someone who has all the knowledge in the world about child development and how issues manifest themselves. Not to mention having reached quite dizzying heights in her profession, and understanding, only too readily, how gender stereotyping works.

The Statutory Instrument that disabled the protection on the Tavi data came into force today.

www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2022/742/made

The Impact Assessment is worth reading too: www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2022/742/pdfs/uksipes_20220742_en.pdf

Wondering how the Scottish Government/NHS will respond to this.