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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Dave Chappelle “gender is a fact” has show cancelled.

62 replies

Libre2 · 21/07/2022 14:20

www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-62249771?at_custom1=%5Bpost+type%5D&at_custom2=facebook_page&at_custom3=BBC+News&at_campaign=64&at_medium=custom7&at_custom4=937174EC-08E8-11ED-85D2-434D2152A482

Things are becoming weirder and weirder.

The venue said “we believe in diverse voices” but evidently they really don’t.

Apparently people are cross (to the point of attacking him) because he said trans people are confusing.

OP posts:
EsmaCannonball · 21/07/2022 18:32

At the relocated gig Chappelle said he understood the venue's decision as the children of staff members had been threatened.

#BeKind, huh?

Metabigot · 21/07/2022 18:36

Its the simpering apology by the theatre that irks me the most.

Hopefully this may peak a few people everyone is getting tired of this shit now.

AlisonDonut · 21/07/2022 18:38

EsmaCannonball · 21/07/2022 18:32

At the relocated gig Chappelle said he understood the venue's decision as the children of staff members had been threatened.

#BeKind, huh?

What they should have said is 'trans activists are threatening the staff and their children so we are left with no other option than to cancel the show. we have reported the threats to the police as a hate crime for hosting a diverse comedian'.

Not made out that hosting a black comedian was unsafe by virtue of his diversity, but that trans activists were making it unsafe.

They chose those words. We get told that if there are threats then to report them, so if there were threats surely there will be receipts to pass onto the police?

SpiderVersed · 21/07/2022 18:44

I mean, other than forgetting about C-sections, he's not wrong.

Gender is a fact. Every human being in this room, every human being on Earth, had to pass through the legs of a woman to be on Earth. This is a fact

SolasAnla · 21/07/2022 18:47

Worrysaboutalot · 21/07/2022 14:50

The 'last minute' cancellation is to prevent him seeking an alternative venue, therefore silencing his voice.

He has fuck around and find out money, I suspect the venue's insurance provider would not be happy to cover any commercial loss created with a breach of contract.
The owners could find themselves working for him or uninsurable.

Libre2 · 21/07/2022 18:51

AlisonDonut · 21/07/2022 18:38

What they should have said is 'trans activists are threatening the staff and their children so we are left with no other option than to cancel the show. we have reported the threats to the police as a hate crime for hosting a diverse comedian'.

Not made out that hosting a black comedian was unsafe by virtue of his diversity, but that trans activists were making it unsafe.

They chose those words. We get told that if there are threats then to report them, so if there were threats surely there will be receipts to pass onto the police?

Yes absolutely. Why does no one say it as it is?

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Whatsnewpussyhat · 21/07/2022 19:23

This whole 'safe space' stuff is nonsense.
Why are they needing to be safe from?
(Whilst threatening the children of staff members to force compliance)

People who point out reality?

SamphirethePogoingStickerist · 21/07/2022 19:27

EsmaCannonball · 21/07/2022 18:32

At the relocated gig Chappelle said he understood the venue's decision as the children of staff members had been threatened.

#BeKind, huh?

Jesus wept. Really? That explains the absolute craven nature of the apology then.

And we are the nasty witches! Fuckwits!

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 21/07/2022 19:36

Clovefeld · 21/07/2022 16:38

Have you got a link to their statement, I haven't seen it to be fair.

There is no trotting around being ‘fair’

you misunderstood the poster you accused of lazy every day racism

Clovefeld · 21/07/2022 19:55

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 21/07/2022 19:36

There is no trotting around being ‘fair’

you misunderstood the poster you accused of lazy every day racism

There's nothing in the statement about his skin colour, posters here just doing what they always do when there's a black person who has GC views, using their skin colour as a sign of victimisation

Black comedian Dave Chapelle
Black prime ministerial candidate Kemi Badenoch
Black lesbian Allison Bailey

But it's denial when it comes to dealing with the real racism that sadly comes up on this board too often.

We see you.

Dave Chappelle “gender is a fact” has show cancelled.
Baaaaaa · 21/07/2022 20:08

Clovefeld · 21/07/2022 19:55

There's nothing in the statement about his skin colour, posters here just doing what they always do when there's a black person who has GC views, using their skin colour as a sign of victimisation

Black comedian Dave Chapelle
Black prime ministerial candidate Kemi Badenoch
Black lesbian Allison Bailey

But it's denial when it comes to dealing with the real racism that sadly comes up on this board too often.

We see you.

Who is we?

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 21/07/2022 20:11

We see you

A) who the fuck is we?

B) who the fuck is you?

AlisonDonut · 21/07/2022 20:54

There's nothing in the statement about his skin colour, posters here just doing what they always do when there's a black person who has GC views, using their skin colour as a sign of victimisation

They mentioned his diversity. If it isn't being black, how was this comedian diverse?

CrossStichQueen · 21/07/2022 22:04

If it isn't being black, how was this comedian diverse?

Maybe cos he's bald?

I think Clover is attempting to paint posters on the FWR board as racist which anyone reading this thread can see that's not the case.

ControversialOpening · 21/07/2022 23:04

TRAs do this.

If you support women’s rights they tell you you’re transphobic. When that doesn’t work they start shouting about racism (despite TRAs own dubious relationship with race issues). They tell people they are homophobic if they won’t defend ‘male lesbians’, and if you’re against conversion therapy of LGB they claim this means you support conversion therapy. If they wave their dicks in your face they tell you not to stare at genitals.

Anything to detract attention away from their own sordid, bullying, narcissistic behaviour.

Mysterioso · 21/07/2022 23:05

Clove, what are you on? It isn't racist to say that a black person is black!
Do the BBC have to say that he is black for it to be true?
A venue touting diversity just cancelled a black man's sell out show.
That should send tongues wagging!

jetadore · 22/07/2022 00:14

Bit weird how he’s getting props on here just for saying the ‘right’ mantra about gender when the rest of his act he’ll be referring to us as bitches and ho’s.

LillithCraneosaurus · 22/07/2022 02:51

Clovefeld · 21/07/2022 16:06

That's some lazy, everyday racism right there.

Classic FWR.

Are you white?

Do you think us people of colour are helped in any way whatsoever by people like you?

Nightlystroll · 22/07/2022 03:13

Clovefeld · 21/07/2022 16:38

Have you got a link to their statement, I haven't seen it to be fair.

So you couldn't be bothered to read the link in the op but you were comfortable to accuse people of racism without checking that your accusations were correct? I wonder how often you just jump on bandwagons without knowing the full facts of what you're talking about?

PlantSpider · 22/07/2022 03:15

I wonder how safe it is to go to see one of his shows, as a woman. Can’t help wondering if they’ll be protests outside, ridiculous as it sounds.

Namerchangerextraordinaire · 22/07/2022 03:20

The TRA petition on change.org mentioned in some of the news reports managed to get a whole 128 signatures (after being mentioned in loads of papers) although it only had around 120 when the theatre took it seriously.

Wish all it took was 128 signatures to get anyone to listen to women.

timeisnotaline · 22/07/2022 05:34

AlisonDonut · 21/07/2022 20:54

There's nothing in the statement about his skin colour, posters here just doing what they always do when there's a black person who has GC views, using their skin colour as a sign of victimisation

They mentioned his diversity. If it isn't being black, how was this comedian diverse?

That’s a lazy everyday reading comprehension fail right there from @Clovefeld . Unless it is because he’s bald? Hair impaired I suppose, I’m sure it’s a thing somewhere.

Conflictedunicorn · 22/07/2022 06:08

LillithCraneosaurus · 22/07/2022 02:51

Are you white?

Do you think us people of colour are helped in any way whatsoever by people like you?

As opposed to the racism of the TRA who state black womxn are only women if we include males? Classic TRA lazy everyday racism right there. Why not pop off and discuss casual racism with them.

Conflictedunicorn · 22/07/2022 06:08

I meant women.

lovelyweathertoday · 22/07/2022 06:12

jetadore · 22/07/2022 00:14

Bit weird how he’s getting props on here just for saying the ‘right’ mantra about gender when the rest of his act he’ll be referring to us as bitches and ho’s.

Yes, I watched his show, lots of talk of bitches.

Do you think the theatre cancelled the show because of sexism? Did women say this made them feel unsafe? I don't think so.

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