Bristol Council goes for broke

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Not quite sure what they're up to, but it doesn't seem very legal.

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So now anything that doesn't fit trans ideology is propaganda?

That it recognises that beliefs such as that of ‘gender critical’ can
be protected, however this does not provide the right to express those
beliefs

I suspect that policy is illegal and discriminatory.

Can they completely flout the Equalities Act and also the recent guidance re single-sex spaces?

Even in Bristol the majority won't b welcoming this and wondering why in a time of recession tax payers money is to be unnecessarily pissed away on an ideology that it turns out no-one is forced to follow.

This was Sefton's recent motion.

Properly captured by Stonewall (and indicative of why I won't vote for Labour in the locals here).

I'd say in times like this, BCC should be focussing on food banks, homelessness & poverty, renewable energy, you can go on...

I mean focussing on healthcare for the T when it's becoming a real issue for very ill people to be seen quickly due to A&E overload.

What is the council smoking down there?

can they completely flout the Equalities Act and also the recent guidance re single-sex spaces?

No they can't. But with these kind of motions often very little real assessment of the flaws in them happens. Hence why I am strenuously recommending someone mobilises a judicial review asap

How about the council thinking of the older men who need sanitary bin disposal due to incontinence?

Any chance that they even considered meeting that need?

But then its not as politically sexy or radical to meet the needs of mainly old, white and male. No chance that the responces will be "stunning and brave".

'this does not provide the right to express those beliefs'. Oh great. So you can have your protected belief as long as you hide it away in secret like a good girl. That's a very threatening statement.

I wouldn't like to clean the male sanitary bins. Other than I totally get men may need them for toilet issues, they will get filled with rubbish & disgusting things I expect

"and not taking advice from or awarding contracts to organisations that promote an anti-trans agenda or propaganda" - again surely goes against Maya's judgement. Although depends how they define 'anti-trans' of course - I assume they mean anyone who disagrees that TWAW etc

MN HQ

What is happening, I keep having posts deleted, you used to email and say why you removed a post.

@waheymouth has made virtually the same point.

Is it one person who keeps reporting me because it is me?

@123Callie I came on here to say exactly that. No public toilets in the city, they were all closed as part of the mayor's cost cutting. Ffs, I'm ashamed of this city that I made my home for 40 years, the mayor will be gone in 18 months and hopefully this madness will stop.

What's going on?

It is

Eg The Catholic Church issued specific teaching that gender soul/ wrong body etc. was in against with the official teaching that women and men are created in God's Image. So a catholic child would express a religious/ faith statement and therefore a GC statement explaining their faith "you're not a girl/boy, God did not make a mistake".

My massive objection in schools would be not just be the gendeism but the new addition of the "A" which claims that a person engages in sexual activity but don't have sexual desire for the person they are having sex with. Lots of the unicorn/ gingerbread materials around acceptance of sexuality has been modified to split into sexual activity and sexual attraction (physical and emotional).

So is a child is taught that she/he can consent to have sex with someone she/he is not sexually attracted to?
What about the child who is trying to have sex with a child who is not sexually attracted to her/him; how exactly is consent working there?

What rights do non-binary people not have?

(Even though non-binary is just a self identification and doesn't actually mean anything in reality).

Imagine how much it will cost to send the man in the van to swap all those never used sanitary bins for another set of never to be used sanitary bins. Utterly bizarre.

They, like female bins should not be cleaned by the regular cleaning staff as they would not be trained to do so.
They would be a biohazard and for H&S reasons the whole unit is usually lifted out and replaced.
This is normally contracted out under a rental and per lift charge and specialist disposal.

Used/unused units in the mens won't matter, the Council is still going to have to align the schedule to the womens so double the cost.

I can't believe that the "Lord Mayor" is wearing a rainbow bib.

None of them put themselves at financial risk.

Elected officials and employees can pass and try enforce any policy they want. At the end of the day they pass on the financial cost (from travel expenses, propaganda production, training to legal challange).

"this does not provide the right to express those beliefs."

That doesn't seem very inclusive does it?

So BCCs position is essentially

"You can believe in Scientific fact but you cannot talk about it"

As well as being an illegal position, it is going to case a massive gaping hole in the curriculum that children are taught in schools.

Sexual dimorphism is a fact. If it weren't there would be no such thing as trans as there'd be nothing to transition to or away from.

Are we just going to get kids to recite a list of illogical beliefs in school now?

On the whole, whilst clearly sexual dimorphism has been a winning evolutionary strategy for humans thus far, I'm beginning to wish we could indeed reproduce via parthenogenisis.

Sadly since wanting something doesn't actually make it so (SCIENCE!) there's nothing I can do about that.

You are best to email directly - report your own post and ask, they will probably explain. Could be 'misgendering' or using one of the words that sometimes trigger deletions.

I had to zoom in to believe what I was seeing.

Considering the subject I'm surprised she wasn't wearing some pink/blue arrow earrings.

PMSL

Wow. This is really important, a game-changer. This is worth repeating.