Sajid Javid just resigned

[achillestoes]

That’s all.

Which means (fingers crossed) there’s an opening for Miriam Cates.

Oh that would be interesting.

This is a well funded, carefully thought out operation - with the media coordinated in unison, as they have relentlessly and mercilessly attacked Boris every day for months on end trying to brainwash the nation, to wear them down to bring about a ‘ legitimate’ coup.

We should all be very worried. This is not about a birthday cake, a pincher in the midst that has been around for decades or anything else - this about a plotters co ordinated plan to bring the PM down - to be replaced by a compliant leader with a very different agenda.

They have simply regrouped. When you add in the bitterness of Cummings and his dangerous plan to overhaul centuries of government then you begin to see something very sinister emerging from the shadows.

Johnson whether you like or loathe him is there on a landslide vote, if he is ‘removed’ by plotters and those with an agenda, the U.K. seizes to be a democracy - that will mean that any leader of any party can be removed at will by those that decide on the inside with whatever agenda they have, and our country will no longer be led by the people.

We have to get a grip, and fast. This is so much bigger than one man and one party.

Hopefully we can see the back of Mike Freer as well.

Were you saying similar when the Tories got rid of Margaret Thatcher and Theresa May and attempted to get rid of John Major? They have form for being utterly ruthless when a leader ceases to be popular with the electorate. In this case, for the sake of the country I'd like to see Johnson out asap, although it's a mystery who could replace him. Next election is surely Labour's to lose, although they're doing their damnedest to lose it.

The last thing this country needs right now is a labour government. A major cause of the rise in the cost of living is the war in Ukraine. If Russia is not firmly put back in its box, things with become much worse over the coming years. I cannot see Kier Starmer standing shoulder to shoulder with Zelensky and NATO.

Another major reason for the high prices is that the trillion pounds wasted on covid needs to be paid back. Granted, that is not down to Starmer but remember this. Starmer made it perfectly clear that he would have locked down harder, faster and longer. We would probably still be locked down if it was down to him.

Under Starmer, we would have five years of navel gazing and wasting time finally deciding what a woman is.

Labour governments always implode when they run out of other peoples money to spend. This time, they would be starting out with no-one having any money.

The Tory party are entitled to bring him down if they can. I concede he’s a divisive and very flawed leader and it’s not out of bounds to call him a sexually incontinent, bloviating fibber.

But it’s better than someone who doesn’t have the courage and the honesty (the irony!) to say men can’t become women, and we shouldn’t be giving children cross-sex hormones and removing parts of their healthy bodies.

It turns out I’m a lot more tolerant of his bloviating and philandering than I thought I was.

And Alex Chalk? He always seemed like one of the good ones, fairly well respected around 'Nam, visible, approachable etc.

I agree gerry as a swing voter this is neither the time or place for a coup taking place right here in the United Kingdom- we are playing directly into Russia abs China’s hands.

It is totally irresponsible. A weak or non existent government will fail Ukraine, will fail to get us through the cost of living crisis. It’s utterly u forgivable of the likes of Roger Gale, Bridgen etc

Tell me again how Cummings pays his bills with no job or income stream? Perhaps he sells Avon in the evenings.

The loss of Quince is also a blow for children. He was at least showing more interest in listening to parents and carers of children with SEND than his predecessors.

Chalk defended putting males in women’s prisons. I’m not crying.

@AmaryIlis

Quince is a very decent man, but we need someone with more backbone. Kids are struggling.

Labour governments always implode when they run out of other peoples money to spend. This time, they would be starting out with no-one having any money.

I agree with all points and yes to this, the thought of Labour on top of Covid and war is too much. And yes to wanting longer lockdowns

We have to get a grip, and fast agree with post generally but one thing Covid has shown is we cannot get a grip in the face of a media onslaught. People lose it. It’s cyclical and additive

Another major reason for the high prices is that the trillion pounds wasted on covid needs to be paid back. Granted, that is not down to Starmer but remember this. Starmer made it perfectly clear that he would have locked down harder, faster and longer. We would probably still be locked down if it was down to him.

Blaming Starmer for the country's covid debts is really taking this to ludicrous lengths. Remember all the billions wasted on duff PPE, and the furlough frauds which the Conservatives can't be bothered to pursue?

It's pretty universally agreed we should have locked down sooner and harder. That way we could have avoided thousands of deaths, not least those absolutely avoidable care home deaths. The suggestion that we would still be locked down if Starmer was in charge is, with every respect, blatant nonsense.

They are indeed. But what sort of backbone do you suggest is needed? And who is going to provide it? What we essentially need is a minister who acknowledges that the only thing wrong with the current SEN legislation is that it is inadequately funded and there is no adequate accountability, and I haven't seen anyone in the Conservative party prepared to accept that.

and that makes what worried me most marsha the news was weaponised long ago and now is nakedly resorting to calling for coups,

And why do they hate Johnson so much? Two guesses and neither is to do with a birthday cake or Carrie playing ABBA.

Sorry sent too soon on phone - **and that worries me the most

@AmaryIlis

Kids are chronically over-exposed to the internet and they don’t get enough exercise or mental health support. I want a Health Minister, Education Minister and a Children’s Minister who are united in what childhood should be about - being protected by adults, being well-educated in safe classrooms, being safeguarded.

@AmaryIlis Can you read?

I clearly said that the covid debt was not down to Starmer. It's right there in the highlighted section you copied from my post.

I also want them to put a hard brake on the woo-woo train. Give kids politically neutral facts, stop people from blaming them (and letting them blame themselves) for adult wrongdoing, give them genuinely safe spaces in which to develop free of inappropriate sexualisation and discrimination.

I’m not sure I lament Quince going as someone I didn’t hear a noise from during highly damaging school closures

But I don’t know much about him otherwise

What's going on is not a coup or anti democracy. That's not how our constitution works. The prime minister is the first of the ministers but he was not directly elected, only by his own constituents. It's up to our representatives to choose a leader. If people in Johnson's constituency had voted for the other bloke we would have a different pm but the Conservative party would still have a majority and form a government.

Of course in practice parties get elected by having a popular leader, and it seems to be agreed that this was a big factor in 2019. And they have stuck with bj because they think he has a personal mandate (sunak even referenced it in the letter) but that is not formal in any way. If a grouping of mps in Parliament (whether one party or more) can converge enough to be able to get legislation through then they are the government.

Talk of coups is hyperbole.

Robin Walker, Minister for School Standards, has resigned.

Robin walker minister for state for school standards has resigned.

Walker believed we should teach children about the world ‘as it is’, and that translated into teaching primary school children gender woo woo.