If you're cis and you won't date trans folk, you're a transphobe!

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I can only apologise to your ears.

I wouldn't say it makes you a transphobe, given it is perfectly possible to be a masculine presenting male and trans.

And if you were to refuse to date those people who deny reality, or campaign against women's or gay rights, or want or has had cosmetic surgery, or someone who has untreated mental health issues then I feel that you might find yourself excluding the vast majority of trans people whilst still not being transphobic.

I've never fancied a blonde so definitely haven't slept with one - does that make me Scandiphobic?

Irrespective of sexuality I'm a firm believer in sex or intimate relationships being an entirely consensual act between two adults with at least some mutual enthusiasm love, kinks, lust whatever

If TRA folk want to get people on board, they shouldn't have such a rapey message.

Every time i click on that link it takes me to something completely different

Your point is taken, but let's be realistic here.

If you have never found a black man attractive that does not make you racist. But if you were to go around announcing that you would never date a black man it does rather look like racism, even though you are perfectly at liberty to turn down people for any reason you want.

Given that the difference between your dream date and a trans person is your dream date saying "I'm trans" and then never doing anything about it, in theory surely, we would all willing to date a trans person. Just not a trans person who fights against our rights, or presents in a way that you doesn't match their unchanging sex, etc etc

Well, I wouldn’t date a committed Christian, or a practising Muslim, or a believer in faith healing, or a grumpy men’s rights activist, or an astrologer. Too much difference in world view.

I doubt any of them would even notice my lack of interest in their beliefs. Why are trans activists so determined to date the uninterested?

It's a ridiculous argument. Why are they talking about lesbians only? Why don't they date gay men? They must be homophobic. They could date other Transwomen? No? They're transphobic too.

Wow. I remember when Weird Al Yankovic was funny.

Same.

You can bet the police won’t be rocking up to have a word with this odious homophobic troll for hate speech. Making light of women who’ve suffered trauma ffs.

I bet, ironically, a trans woman wouldn’t date another trans woman when they really want a lesbian because it doesn’t validate them

I’m a straight woman. Attracted to men. What is between their legs is not everything it’s the essence, the being, the pheromones and hormones, they way they smell and move which a trans man even with all the physical operations can’t replicate. I would only ever date a man who was born male. I assume it’s the same for lesbians in regards to being attracted to the essence of actual born natal women that can’t be replicated in a trans woman no matter how well they pass (and most don’t!)

I wouldn’t date a Tory. I’d struggle with a committed Lib Dem. Where does that leave me?

It seems that some trans people assume that being brave and stunning gives them an automatic right to date who ever they want, regardless of how the other person feels. The concept of attraction has passed them by.

So I noticed the song lyrics go something like 'if you won't date trans people you're a transphobe, sorry if that makes you mad but it's just true." And I just realised I've been called a transphobe so many times that it has no impact on me any more. I don't care anymore: I'm certainly not mad about it. It's also ironic, to echo what other posters have said...I have dated transwomen in the past and found the experience very off-putting because their behaviour and personality was indistinguishable from males. I gave it a shot, but it really isn't like dating other women.

Romantic relationships, sex and dating are by their very nature, discriminatory. No one owes anyone a relationship or a sexual encounter.

My head hurts.

There is (and always has been) a certain number of people who firmly believe they have the right to access women's bodies and women do not have the right to say no.

This is a huge problem.

Everyone has the right to choose who they would like to be intimate with but they don't have the right to decide that that person must want be intimate with them!
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I want to shout at these people - Accept no for an answer! We don't owe you access to our bodies and we don't owe you an explanation.

Oh dearie me, as my ExMiL would say. That's probably not many people's cup of tea, is it?

This person again. They certainly do like lecturing women and facial expressions.

Same old, same old. I guess they honestly think they are righteous in their hatred of females who disagree with them.

and here we are, full circle, back to consent and the idea that people (anyone) can say no to sex for whatever reason. It does not make them bad people.

But men have historically had many issues with this concept, despite some very clear explanations, some in cartoon form, to help them. Identifying as female ( transwoman) should not mean they are exempt from the concept of consent, it is now giving them an excuse to put it to one side for their own agenda.

Ok so I'm a dating transphobe, I think I'll get over it.

There's another song that goes "if it's got a dick it ain't a chick" If I was a lesbian I would be singing that song.

so if they don't want to date older women does that make them ageist? (Lets throw another term in)

Oh this absolute TWAAAAAAT. He’s just raging women don’t want to sleep with him, even though he has a wig and dress on.

I only date men and they have to be able to sing. He only ticks one of those boxes. Sadly I can't go out with HIM