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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Another go woke go broke - McCains

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Birdsweepsin · 28/06/2022 09:41

twitter.com/McCainUKIE/status/1541406087324246019?s=20&t=pug-ahmQqiD5mqyyLzLdAw

Who the hell in adland thinks insulting or mocking the people who buy your products is a winning strategy?

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GoodJanetBadJanet · 28/06/2022 12:38

I love Baga!
What's the problem here? Just don't boy the chips then.
You can't even call her overly sexual which is what people usually don't like drag queens being.

NC12345665 · 28/06/2022 12:43

What's the problem here?

Read the thread?

Birdsweepsin · 28/06/2022 12:44

Most of their videos get a couple of hundred views. This one has had 11.7k in less than 24 hours.

.... and 10 likes. I'm not alone I reckon.

Another go woke go broke - McCains
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ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 28/06/2022 12:44

GoodJanetBadJanet · 28/06/2022 12:38

I love Baga!
What's the problem here? Just don't boy the chips then.
You can't even call her overly sexual which is what people usually don't like drag queens being.

Please explain what relevance a biological male talking about “big knockers” has to a formed potato product marketed for children?

wellhelloitsme · 28/06/2022 12:44

GoodJanetBadJanet · 28/06/2022 12:38

I love Baga!
What's the problem here? Just don't boy the chips then.
You can't even call her overly sexual which is what people usually don't like drag queens being.

It's an ad for McCain Smiles - designed specifically to appeal to kids (rather than the main chips range) and Baga talks about 'great big knockers' you can 'park a bus between'.

Doesn't that seem like sexualising / inappropriate to you?

catandcoffee · 28/06/2022 12:46

Is this actually being shown on mainstream TV ?

Comefromaway · 28/06/2022 12:49

They are not being shown on TV, (which I agree would be inappropriate). They are being put on Baga's instagram account. Kids shouldn't be on instagram.

achillestoes · 28/06/2022 12:53

It still blurs the lines. We shouldn’t be linking kids’ food to sexualised marketing campaigns. What’s the point anyway? Nobody even likes it.

Thelnebriati · 28/06/2022 12:57

People who say ''its vanilla'' or ''not on mainstream TV'' or ''kids shouldn't be on Instagram'' are admitting that an advert for a food marketed at kids is not suitable for children to watch.

Can you see the problem yet?

IcakethereforeIam · 28/06/2022 12:58

I'd never heard of him. Is he famous? I initially thought it was a character McCains had made up to sell their crap products.

GoodJanetBadJanet · 28/06/2022 12:59

So it's not even on telly, it's on her IG account but people are still firing off letters of complaint?
Ok.

Thelnebriati · 28/06/2022 13:00

No Janet; its also on McCains social media - Twitter and Instagram.

catandcoffee · 28/06/2022 13:00

achillestoes · 28/06/2022 12:53

It still blurs the lines. We shouldn’t be linking kids’ food to sexualised marketing campaigns. What’s the point anyway? Nobody even likes it.

Exactly 💯

Comefromaway · 28/06/2022 13:01

Twitter and Instagram are aimed at tens and adults. Young kids shouldn't be on them.

I guess it makes a change from dh spelling out rude words with ds's Alphabites!

GoodJanetBadJanet · 28/06/2022 13:02

*ICakeThereforeIAm Yes, Baga is famous, was on Ru Paul's Drag Race UK.

GreyGrey · 28/06/2022 13:02

Comefromaway · 28/06/2022 12:49

They are not being shown on TV, (which I agree would be inappropriate). They are being put on Baga's instagram account. Kids shouldn't be on instagram.

How do you know it’s not on tv?

Comefromaway · 28/06/2022 13:04

Baga Chipz is a character from the first season of Drag Race UK. I didn't watch that series as dd wasn't living at home at the time. I gather it was a popular character.

Comefromaway · 28/06/2022 13:05

Becasue the press releases etc about it state the ads are being aired on the social media account.

achillestoes · 28/06/2022 13:05

I’m sure it was popular on Drag Race. Not when it’s being used to sell kids’ food.

Comefromaway · 28/06/2022 13:07

The ads are probably designed to appeal to students etc, not kids. If I see one on TV I will be just as up in arms as the rest of you. But so far, no evidence for that.

Birdsweepsin · 28/06/2022 13:08

marcommnews.com/mccain-unveils-rupauls-drag-race-star-baga-chipz-as-creative-director/

15 people involved in this campaign.

11 or 12 of them women by my count.

But at the top? A Mark and an Angus

Oh and they knew exactly what they were doing: "The films are packed with Baga Chipz’ iconic innuendos, framing the midweek meal occasion as the perfect time to forget the rules, unwind and enjoy the things you love."

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Thelnebriati · 28/06/2022 13:09

Comefromaway
Twitter and Instagram are aimed at tens and adults. Young kids shouldn't be on them.

Then why are the adverts for kids food and not just chips? Why are people defending this decision? What's right about this?

TheFeistyFeminist · 28/06/2022 13:09

When it was just Drag Race, I exercised my freedom to switch over. I don't want to watch performative womanface denigrating my entire biological sex with parody, which feels to me akin to the black and white minstrels of yesteryear. I subscribe to the theory that when we know better, we should do better.

But it tips over that boundary into my instagram feed, my twitter feed, or my daughter's enjoyment of you tube (I keep track of who she follows and watches, and we talk about stuff). Then, I get annoyed.

This is bad advertising. It isn't appropriate for the likely consumer, it denigrates the likely buyer, it's really tone deaf to what's going on at the moment.

If McCain need to be reminded of that, it's our job (women, consumers) to remind them. The ratio on Twitter is valuable. So is avoiding buying their products. That's a shame given their recent support of families in need. But, unless we make the case, we can't encourage change.

wellhelloitsme · 28/06/2022 13:09

GoodJanetBadJanet · 28/06/2022 12:59

So it's not even on telly, it's on her IG account but people are still firing off letters of complaint?
Ok.

Would you be comfortable with an ad where a bloke not in drag made a woman with 'big knockers' (and calling them that) using kids food, ready to be served to a kid (because that's specially who the product is designed to be served to)?

Would you be comfortable with an ad where a woman made a replica of herself with 'big knockers' (and calling them that) using kids food, ready to be served to a kid (because that's specially who the product is designed to be served to)?

IcakethereforeIam · 28/06/2022 13:10

Thanks for the explanation, Janet. I understand it's popular (understatement?), but I've never watched it. Not a fan of makeover or song and dance shows, or smiley faces except theseSmile