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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Another go woke go broke - McCains

412 replies

Birdsweepsin · 28/06/2022 09:41

twitter.com/McCainUKIE/status/1541406087324246019?s=20&t=pug-ahmQqiD5mqyyLzLdAw

Who the hell in adland thinks insulting or mocking the people who buy your products is a winning strategy?

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Belovedfool · 28/06/2022 11:15

I feel like I've stepped back in time....

RockaLock · 28/06/2022 11:19

Whilst I did not enjoy the video at all, I am very much enjoying the Twitter comments!

CandyLeBonBon · 28/06/2022 11:25

It's like Dick Emery and his 1970s humour has been raised from the dead. This type of sexist Schtick should really stay firmly in the past where it belongs. It's not the drag so much as the fucking regressive sexist 'humour'

Thelnebriati · 28/06/2022 11:28

even if the content was totally vanilla

If the content is not 'vanilla', its not suitable to advertise a food marketed at children.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 28/06/2022 11:28

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The reason I don't go. Its such dated misogynistic non-comedy and the industry seems content to push the more fetishism side of Drag into spaces for children.

BootsAndRoots · 28/06/2022 11:32

I find the whole debate around drag interesting. It's been quite mainstream from the 50s, Lily Savage did BBC1 Saturday night Blankety Blank in the early 2000s. It's not subversive or ground-breaking (as many younger generations like to think it is).

RuPaul's drag race isn't suitable for children (I've watched some of the US version) and there's a lot of swearing, innuendo etc that isn't suitable for children. I think people like to announce that their children watch it because it makes them seem progressive. It's like Pride where you have people wearing bondage et al and people think that because it's got the LGBT label it's suitable for children.

This drag queen (like all of the UK RuPaul's contestants) seem second rate, and I think McCain's think they're being really progressive when in fact it just seems like 1970s basic humour instead.

Drag is supposed to be a bit of a laugh, drag beauty pageants are a subversive take on the Miss World beauty pageants, but to think of it as anything more (like a complex discussion on gender identity in a 2020s context) is pushing it.

BootsAndRoots · 28/06/2022 11:35

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 28/06/2022 11:08

Lots of things were very popular recently that would go down like a lead balloon now (and the creators have subsequently apologised for). Little Britain. Bo Selecta.

Programmes like Little Britain actually predicted the future quite well. Perhaps now the humour is too close to the bone to be considered funny?

(Looking at Daffyd and Emily).

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 28/06/2022 11:41

I do feel rather grieved by this. For the last few weeks, the company's adverts for their work making grants to families with disabled children have kept coming up when I use twitter. As I'm easily swayed and easily parted with my money, I'd been buying McCains chips again over supermarket own brand potato products.

Couldn't they have just kept doing tweets like that?

timeisnotaline · 28/06/2022 11:44

It doesn’t seem at all woke to me, more 30 years out of date. But I have no idea who baga chipz is, so 🤷‍♀️. I do like dame Edna though, she’s always been very clever. And Barry Humphries is not at all confused as to whether he’s male or female.

MenopausalMe · 28/06/2022 12:03

That’s grim, I’m really really fed up of males mocking my breasts, just weary of it. Mocking like this in adverts gets picked up by men in the streets and leads to increased harassment.

The bag of smiley faces in the freezer right now will be the last

MenopausalMe · 28/06/2022 12:05

BootsAndRoots · 28/06/2022 11:32

I find the whole debate around drag interesting. It's been quite mainstream from the 50s, Lily Savage did BBC1 Saturday night Blankety Blank in the early 2000s. It's not subversive or ground-breaking (as many younger generations like to think it is).

RuPaul's drag race isn't suitable for children (I've watched some of the US version) and there's a lot of swearing, innuendo etc that isn't suitable for children. I think people like to announce that their children watch it because it makes them seem progressive. It's like Pride where you have people wearing bondage et al and people think that because it's got the LGBT label it's suitable for children.

This drag queen (like all of the UK RuPaul's contestants) seem second rate, and I think McCain's think they're being really progressive when in fact it just seems like 1970s basic humour instead.

Drag is supposed to be a bit of a laugh, drag beauty pageants are a subversive take on the Miss World beauty pageants, but to think of it as anything more (like a complex discussion on gender identity in a 2020s context) is pushing it.

Paul O’Grady was respectful to women in his Lily Savage sets, it didn’t come across as mocking or demeaning women

Datun · 28/06/2022 12:12

Who cares if that person is a celebrity in their niche world of drag? They're not a celebrity to anyone else.

Just a male in a dress talking about their 'big knockers' as a marketing campaign for kids' food!

Apart from how ridiculously inappropriate it is, who the bloody hell are they talking to?

As the op says " I don't want to explain why a man in a wig is talking about his "knockers" to my 6 year old".

Jeez.

AngelinaFibres · 28/06/2022 12:14

Nopetryagain · 28/06/2022 09:58

Would you object to Lily Savage or Dame Edna?

Baga Chipz is a minor celebrity and their name works with the product. I agree that comments about knockers don’t seem appropriate but I suspect even if the content was totally vanilla you would still object to Baga.

Yes. I would object to all of it . Dragrace is also misogynistic crap. Not clever, not witty, not funny. Just nasty.

Moj1t0 · 28/06/2022 12:15

BootsAndRoots · 28/06/2022 11:32

I find the whole debate around drag interesting. It's been quite mainstream from the 50s, Lily Savage did BBC1 Saturday night Blankety Blank in the early 2000s. It's not subversive or ground-breaking (as many younger generations like to think it is).

RuPaul's drag race isn't suitable for children (I've watched some of the US version) and there's a lot of swearing, innuendo etc that isn't suitable for children. I think people like to announce that their children watch it because it makes them seem progressive. It's like Pride where you have people wearing bondage et al and people think that because it's got the LGBT label it's suitable for children.

This drag queen (like all of the UK RuPaul's contestants) seem second rate, and I think McCain's think they're being really progressive when in fact it just seems like 1970s basic humour instead.

Drag is supposed to be a bit of a laugh, drag beauty pageants are a subversive take on the Miss World beauty pageants, but to think of it as anything more (like a complex discussion on gender identity in a 2020s context) is pushing it.

True that drag is old hat (the ones who frequent kids' libraries seem to be a whole new variety, though. Better not say anything more on that...) . Just like gender non conforming men and women of the 80s and 90s, who apparently seem to have been forgotten by the under 20s.

I guess the youth of any particular era thinking they invented it all is nothing new.

DariaMorgendorffer · 28/06/2022 12:16

Hideous ad.

I do watch Rupaul's drag race, and enjoy. It is in no way suitable for children, of course. I can enjoy the humour in that form, without wanting 'knocker' jokes in general advertising for frozen potato goods Confused.

Datun · 28/06/2022 12:16

We're going backwards. What next, bimbo jokes, and take my mother-in-law?

I'm genuinely quite shocked that a company like McCain could get this sooo wrong.

Niteandday · 28/06/2022 12:17

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MarshaBradyo · 28/06/2022 12:18

MrsOvertonsWindow · 28/06/2022 10:41

Indeed. "Knock knock the 70's. Please take your sexist men back".

Agree, no thanks from me too

DadJoke · 28/06/2022 12:20

Birdsweepsin · 28/06/2022 09:48

Sigh. Drag is patronising and insulting. It's not funny. These are products aimed at kids. I don't want to explain why a man in a wig is talking about his "knockers" to my 6 year old

Wait until you hear about pantomime!

pushingpoppies · 28/06/2022 12:20

Hmm, more dubious about the massive sausage penis?

LizzieSiddal · 28/06/2022 12:21

Re drag being “popular” well so was going to watch hangings but we stopped that.

also McCains line “anything goes” … what the hell are they going to do next?

heathspeedwell · 28/06/2022 12:22

About as funny and progressive as Benny Hill.

Tyrantosaurus · 28/06/2022 12:28

Comefromaway · 28/06/2022 09:49

Don't let your 6 year old watch Drag Race then. For me it was a great way to bond with dd when we watched it via zoom party during lockdown.

I find it funny, you don't so don't watch it.

You could just watch my little pony with your 6 year old, they'd probably rather that too

IloveHolby · 28/06/2022 12:29

I sometimes watch Drag Race, and don't find all drag artists offensive to women - I do think some of them are motivated by a genuine love of their Mum's or Nan's or strong women in general. Bagga was one of my faves on the series I watched but in no way is this appropriate for a kids food advert. And it's not in anyway funny.

Drag is definitely adult humour, it shouldn't be mainstream.

I'm also loving the comments on the thread.

Comefromaway · 28/06/2022 12:30

My dd is 20 by the way. That's why she watches it.