TullipR going to sue NHS over poor care pre-sex-change procedure

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"Stephanie Davies-Arai, founder of Transgender Trend, a group advising parents on transgender children and young adults, said: ‘It is hoped this will force a re-think by the NHS about this kind of barbaric surgery on patients who are told by medics it will help them.

‘He has a very real case for compensation against the heath service. We believe he has suffered harm.’

His case has been taken on by lawyers in Liverpool. It centres on whether the NHS and its gender clinics adequately counselled him before the operation five years ago. The patient, in his thirties, was brought up in the North of England and has de-transitioned from being a woman to live as a man again.

The man says he is gay and his sexuality should have been discussed before the radical, irreversible gender surgery. ‘I have been castrated. That is the correct term,’ he says on his Twitter feed, which has 19,000 followers.

‘I cannot believe they [the NHS] were allowed to do this to me.

‘I was not even asked if I wanted to freeze my sperm, or have kids in the future.’ He does not want to be named because he is ashamed of how he looks. Instead, he tweets under the pseudonym TullipR.

Yesterday, he posted a picture of his huge bundle of medical notes which will be used by his lawyers to bring the case against the NHS."

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10947483/Anguish-young-man-sex-organs-removed-NHS-regretted-day-SUES-NHS.html

Yes, the invisible elephant in the room is that GD has been reclassed as not a mental health issue.

I imagine it is therefore impossible to say that anyone wishing to amputate their penis needs to consider mental health comorbidities. At least, I can imagine it would be difficult to do so without being accused of 'pathologising' something that some people are determined to describe as not a mental health issue and not connected with mental health issues. Hence why Cass noted that potential other reasons for GD should be noted, and she specifically included mental health comorbidities.

The 'affirmation only' approach as supported by WPATH (of the 'Eunuch' identity links) seems to suggest that anyone who says they wish to transition must be supported without any questions or consideration.

If 'Eunuch' is a gender identity, then any male who chooses to pursue penis amputation would be affirmed, is that correct?

My post was that Tulip is mistaken. Feminists are not ignoring young men and boys. We want all young people to be protected from irreversible, harmful consequences of ideology, and for all young people to develop and respect healthy boundaries.

I cannot believe that MNHQ find this offensive. No doubt someone did not like some of the more emotive - yet entirely accurate - terminology I used.

Sure Mishi, getting breast augmentation/reduction is just the same as lopping off your cock, highly comparable, should both be freely available on NHS, 'cos 'body autonomy', right?

I reckon that this thread will attract a lot of monitors ...

I'll say it again. Regret rates for trans surgeries are less than most common surgeries

I'll say it again, the earth is flat.

What exactly is misogynistic to say you should be worried about the health of both males and females?

Maybe he was attracted to or sucked in by the trans ideology because of a need to be the centre of attention, and that need is still unfulfilled.

Many people need to be the centre of attention. It's probably quite natural. But with emotional maturity comes the ability to balance personal needs with living among others.

What would happen, I wonder, if the NHS had nothing to do with gender issues anymore? So someone goes to the doctor, tells they they're the opposite sex to their biology, doctor says, it's a social issue, not a healthcare issue.

Feminists are not ignoring young men and boys.

exactly

Except it's not a mental health condition, TRA have said it's not a mental health condition.

TRA also say TWAW.

It's not. I was referring here to the current practice of people having physical treatment when they think they are in the wrong body. I realise that wasn't clear as it didn't really follow from the first part of my post.

He's suing the NHS because he regrets his decision? Bloody ridiculous. The questions he is saying he should have been asked are BASIC common sense questions that he should have thought of by himself? Like - i will lose my penis if I ask them to make me a woman. Am i okay with this? I won't be able to have children if i have my sexual organs removed. Am i okay with this? These aren't unexpected side effects that he had no idea could happen? It's literally what he was asking for when he wanted the surgery. He needs to accept some level of responsibility surely?

Ah I get you, although no idea why your post has been deleted?!

Of course it's a mental health condition, in the same way somebody might want a leg amputated because it feels wrong to have two legs.

No one is born in the wrong body, you get what you get and you learn to live with it (that's my belief anyway).

I was born in the wrong body but so far the NHS appear singularly uninterested in paying for 'corrective' surgery in the form of liposuction, breast reduction, nose job, face lift, electrolysis, or laser eye surgery so I have the correct perfect vision that my brain tells me I should have.

I've got really mixed feelings about this. If someone buys a used car, they have a level.of protection even if they don't do a test drive and listen to the engine. That being so, if you feel you've been duped by a batshit ideology, should you not have some recourse? And should the NHS not take responsibility for following it's precepts when anyone with a few braincells could have seen this chugging down the track? I mean, we're just silly mummies, and a lot of us saw this coming.

On the other hand, this is elective surgery which is putting yet more pressure on the NHS. I know someone who required reconstructive surgery due to the delay in dealing with a pre-cancerous condition. I knew someone else who was unable to secure a face to face GP appointment until it was too late, and died of inoperable cancer nine weeks later. I have much more sympathy for them.

If it isn't a mental illness then what is the surgery is actually treating and why? We get told it is to prevent suicide but that is a symptom of mental illness so is it a mental health issue after all? And it doesn't work to stop suicide anyway as the risk of suicide increases manyfold post transition.

The main study used to justify this had to issue a correction which showed no benefit from surgical transition.

So if this surgery has no benefit and/or increases suicide risk then what it is for?

I'll say it again

I'm sure you will mishy, I'm sure you will

...Regret rates for trans surgeries are less than most common surgeries

and yet you still won't back this sweeping statement up with any evidence.

Aye, women disagree with each other sometimes.

On occasion, we even argue.

Shocking, I know.

Some people find it very easy to forget that people who go to the doctor and ask for this ‘treatment’ are (unless we do actually believe in a ‘trans identity’) more than likely mentally unwell. They are then given these treatments without mental health intervention. Obviously when the result is painful and distressing, they are not solely responsible for that. They were ill. It’s the responsibility of doctors to offer them treatment that will make them better.