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James Esses - Employment Tribunal starts Tues 14 June

292 replies

ifIwerenotanandroid · 13/06/2022 19:50

Link, or screenshot for those who don't like links/twitter...

twitter.com/JamesEsses/status/1536311039565996033

James Esses - Employment Tribunal starts Tues 14 June
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Ameanstreakamilewide · 14/06/2022 13:10

I haven't had mine yet, either, Tessa. I've been wondering if i've made a mistake somehow.

Both times that i've contacted them for details (for Maya's and Allison's hearings), they responded within the hour.

TessaSmith · 14/06/2022 13:14

That is reassuring.. hopefully they send it soon!

Wimbunds · 14/06/2022 13:15

Place marking x

Mollyollydolly · 14/06/2022 13:30

No login details received by me either.

User76745333 · 14/06/2022 13:37

It's just a preliminary hearing. Unlikely to be worth watching.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 14/06/2022 13:46

BeBraveLittlePenguin · 14/06/2022 12:09

Akua Reindorf v RMW doesn't seem like a very fair fight.

Surely the important thing is if the judge agrees with RMWs particular interpretation of the law? Nice to see RMW acting as council in their own right as opposed to just assisting by producing bundles.

User76745333 · 14/06/2022 14:03

This is just to determine the points listed on the screenshot though.

SpinMeARiver · 14/06/2022 14:54

I think it's extremely important to show that there's an active public interest in open justice.

InvisibleDragon · 14/06/2022 14:56

Oh wow, another delay until 3pm.

I know today is just a preliminary hearing, but it's still important.

JE's initial complaint was against the Metanoia institute, who appear to have summarily ejected him from his Psychotherapy training (without a clear process) after he started and then tweeted about a petition regarding the government consultation on Conversion therapy.

He later added the UKCP (UK Council for Psychotherapy) to the complainant, because of some comments made at a UKCP training session about his situation. I can't remember the details of what was reported, but he considers them to be libellous. I believe he was called transphobic among other things, and was made out to be bigoted and to hold unacceptable views.

According to his update, the hearing today is because 2 of the parties have applied to have his complaint against them struck out. I suspect that that is the UKCP and the anonymous Respondent 3 - who is presumably involved somehow in the UKCP training event incident.

To me, that's quite a big deal. The UKCP is JE's professional body, although it's not a regulatory body. For them to have delivered a training that made these kinds of comments about JE is effectively to say that you cannot be gender critical (a belief that has now been found worthy of respect in a democratic society) and be an accredited Psychotherapist. I very much hope that the complaints are not struck out, so will be following with considerable interest.

TessaSmith · 14/06/2022 15:09

I'm a law student so I really wanted to attend this hearing apart from the emotional involvement. But I haven't received the details either.

SpinMeARiver · 14/06/2022 15:16

I've emailed for a pin number. Fingers crossed.

tigertactics · 14/06/2022 15:25

Pin is 7352 for anyone still needing one.

SpinMeARiver · 14/06/2022 15:48

tigertactics · 14/06/2022 15:25

Pin is 7352 for anyone still needing one.

Thanks - everyone gets the same one, don't they?

ickky · 14/06/2022 15:49

can you give the link too?

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 14/06/2022 15:49

tigertactics · 14/06/2022 15:25

Pin is 7352 for anyone still needing one.

I didn't receive a link yet despite the acknowledgement email. I don't know if we have individual links that work with the PIN of others, IYSWIM.

ickky · 14/06/2022 15:56

I PM'ed you @EmbarrassingHadrosaurus

ickky · 14/06/2022 16:00

I just got the email with the link. Waiting for the host to join.

I sincerely hope that RMW had nothing to do with collating this bundle!

Ameanstreakamilewide · 14/06/2022 16:13

Are they on a break?

Ameanstreakamilewide · 14/06/2022 16:17

Just seen this Tweet.

James Esses - Employment Tribunal starts Tues 14 June
NecessaryScene · 14/06/2022 16:17

I sincerely hope that RMW had nothing to do with collating this bundle!

Eh? RMW's the Bundlemeister. Always remarkable work.

ickky · 14/06/2022 16:19

NecessaryScene · 14/06/2022 16:17

I sincerely hope that RMW had nothing to do with collating this bundle!

Eh? RMW's the Bundlemeister. Always remarkable work.

It is definitely remarkable, I recall making a number of remarks about the previous efforts. 😂

Ameanstreakamilewide · 14/06/2022 16:38

Adjourned til 11:00 tomoz.

ickky · 14/06/2022 16:39

Got in briefly, Judge adjourning until tomorrow at 11am, but they still have private discussions to conclude so may be waiting to get into the room.

Judge gave TT permission to tweet.

SpinMeARiver · 14/06/2022 16:48

EJ Beyzade Beyzade looks interesting. (He makes the joke himself, 'so good they named him twice'.)

Tallisker · 14/06/2022 17:10

Is Reindorf Esses's barrister?