Waitrose delivery driver

[MsMoorhead]

Kellie Jay-Keen reported by her Waitrose delivery driver!

To which the driver's response was...? Oh yes, to "take [their] time" over leaving.

Something doesn't add up here...

Love the Russian propaganda post followed by such a clear example of shameless willingness to disseminate partial truths or outright fictions.

'It seems to me that KJK signs did invite comment'
Seriously?

People have all sorts of signs on their doors or windows or whatever - you know like rainbows.

What we don't expect is a delivery driver, who is delivering goods that we paid for, to comment.

Waitrose - you really need to sort this out. Your staff are there to deliver stuff, and that is it.

Discovereads, how dare you? I've taken issue with things you have said - you respond to none of my points but simply call me a shameless liar.

Yes she was asked what they were, by someone who is in opposition to them, hence the determination to use her daughter's changing room, and she responded.

And remember this is KJKs version of events. We don’t have the delivery drivers version of events at all.

Correct.

Honestly Discovereads. Posie's entire MO is about correctly identifying the male sex.

Do you really think that you understanding that, knowing that he refused to leave promptly, knowing that he said he was going to share the same changing room as her daughter and there's nothing she can do about it - you knowing all that but still claiming the most awful aspect of the entire scenario is her not willingly calling him female, doesn't look, at the very least, rather extreme?

Don't engage lovey. Not worth it.

Deliberate misgendering is a form of harrassment.

How does that even fly? She tried several times to get him to leave, even swearing at him. And even then, he dragged his heels. 🙄

Deliberate misgendering is a form of harrassment.

Demanding people lie about your sex is a form of harassment.

Thank you, you're quite right. That was just shocking to me - I wouldn't speak to anyone here differently to how I would if we were all down the pub, even if I might debate robustly. I shall follow your counsel, keep to civil society and even perhaps go to bed.

Discovereads - misgendering is not harassment. Doesn't matter how much you wish it wasn't so, it isn't.

So, all this conversation happened when the long haired, delivery driver had dropped off the delivery and for some reason they decided to hang around and start making remarks to the customer about their business.

They only need to access someone's property to drop the delivery off, and then leave. Is part of the Waitrose delivery service for the delivery driver (long haired or not) to query you about your business and loiter when you ask them to leave? The 'I will be using the same space as your daughter' remark seems designed to creep the customer out. This was after KJK has pointed it makes many women feel uncomfortable.

😂😂😂😂 - give it up love. You are boring us now.

you knowing all that but still claiming the most awful aspect of the entire scenario is her not willingly calling him female,

Fiction. Made no such claim.

Eh? Calling him male is exactly her not calling him female.

Isn't it?

<peers round nervously>

Let me tell you about a Waitrose delivery. The groceries are not bagged, so you take them from the green crates on the doorstep inside in armfuls and this takes a few minutes. So you normally have a bit of chit chat with the driver. The whole conversation that KJK relates could be done in under 5 mins. After the delivery is done, they have to put the crates back in the back of the van. Then they usually sit in the van and process any refunds due to you (if you refused any poor quality items or substitutions) and to set their GPS for the next delivery before they set off.

However one's unwanted presence on someone's doorstep and driveway is just what, flattery?

Discovereads - still going? Not going to convince the feminist board lovey.

I see I will have to be specific: “claiming that the most awful aspect of the entire scenario” is not a claim I made. So, that’s a fiction.

Don’t care. Not my objective.

Well she was wanted though wasn’t she as KJK ordered for her groceries to be delivered by Waitrose to her doorstep. And after KJK told her to get off the property, she left.

It appears your object is to convince us all that trans activists are totally without integrity and think their wishes supersede all other people's no matter the location, and that given this, negotiation with you is impossible.

Odd objective, but you're achieving it, definitely.

The U.K. EA Tribunal judgement I posted says otherwise. It says deliberate misgendering, specifically calling a transwoman a man, can be unlawful harrassment and possessing gender critical beliefs doesn’t protect a person from liability.

Why did KJK leave it was her house?