Waitrose delivery driver

[MsMoorhead]

Kellie Jay-Keen reported by her Waitrose delivery driver!

Its an

i’ll leave when i want…you can’t make me

type reply

personally I’d absolutely tell someone who decided they should have a pop at me and said they’d leave in their own sweet time to fuck off

(Actually i might not 🤔 depending on my mood i might well go ‘yeah yeah yeah’ and shut the door in their face….kinda depends)

No, not "plain wrong" just a different interpretation than yours. I think plenty of people would agree with my interpretation rather than yours which ascribes no unpleasantness to the delivery driver's response.

If you were serving a customer on their property, and after a heated discussion they asked you to leave immediately.... would you? Or would you say "I'll take my time" and not leave immediately?

Anyone rational would agree that people working in customer service roles are there to do the job at hand. Not to engage in debate about contentious topics to the point of being asked to leave. It's not reasonable to interrogate customers about their politics, their beliefs, their religion etc etc.

I may be a latecomer to posting on this thread but I most certainly have watched the video. Twice, in fact.

Except your “interpretation” isn’t an interpretation at all it is a complete rewrite of the sentence to add in both elements of refusal and unpleasantness that simply were not there.

The statement “I’ll take my time” isn’t one of no unpleasantness. It is less than polite. But it isn’t a refusal and it is less unpleasant than your rewrite.

It bloody well is (is that colourful language too much?)

"I'll empty these crates first" is fine, it shows that any loitering before leaving has a genuine purpose.

"I'll take my time" is deliberately antagonistic. It shows that he could see that his presence and behaviour was causing the customer distress, and that he was going to drag it out for its own sake.

Just asked dh

and i do appreciate that thats the kiss of death 😀

but he’s got no fucking idea about this thread…..so i said ‘if somone came to the house and you had a little chat about whatever and then you said…can you leave my property please…and they said ……I’ll take my time….Do you think thats an ..…of course I’ll leave….or an…..I’ll leave when i want and you can’t do anything about it’

its the latter apparently

Yes. Well. You wouldn't get it, would you.

That you don't see that "I'll take my time" is threatening makes me think Discovereads that you are not a typical female. A man that wants to show he can do as he wishes because a woman is smaller and weaker than him is a threat.

Different company. It's on the tip of my tongue which one.

I honestly don’t see it as threatening. I’m not sure about what a “typical” female is, but I do admit I have developed a thicker skin than most other women I know. I worked in a male dominated industry which required it. So, someone saying “I’ll take my time” in such a situation where I’ve said to get off my property strikes me as a feeble, must have the last word type childish statement. It wouldn’t faze me in the slightest.

Last time I found someone threatening was when a person told me they were going to rip my face off.

Which confirms you are not a typical female.

How on earth do people have the time and patience to listen to videos that are not professionally edited? I couldn't get past the first 30 seconds of her waffling on about her internet connection.

I'll take my time is definitely am aggressive dominance thing for a man to say to a woman. It's bullshit to suggest it's not.

Meh, we should all apparently develop thicker skin and not we worried about threatening males unless they tell us they're about to rip our face off, like our brave hero @Discovereads.

Meanwhile, our poor 'sisters' literally will die if we misgender that, but that's ok, because they are extra womanly and vulnerable, so no need for that thick skin that we must develop. Quite educational really

yep. Refusing to adhere to an ideology which she thoroughly disagrees with is 'harassment' apparently.

Maybe they are passionate about their rights being questioned and attempts made to take them away, and appreciate someone spending their time fighting this, even if their videos are not professionally edited. But that's just a wild guess, what do you think?

There is no such thing as a typical female. I'm 5'11, strong and athletic, hasn't stopped me being a victim of male sexual violence more than once. @Discovereads is extremely lucky or has been a target in her male-dominated environment. One way to deal is minimize-'i'm fine, it's ok, it's just banter, I'm one of the boys actually'. And worse still, then accept that male entitlement and become an apologist. Those women are the worst

Well, it is nice and freeing to not feel threatened and intimidated by low level annoyances. Not gonna lie. Highly recommend thick skin.

For the record, it was a fellow woman that said she was going to rip my face off. (And no, she wasn’t a transwoman.) Funny how you assumed it was a man….

@Discovereads No, it's not funny, it's statistically accurate guess. Your incident was a highly unusual one in my experience. Women have never made me fear for my life in my 50 years. Sadly it's very much not the case with men. That's people with cocks, just to clarify for you

And you know @Discovereads, sometimes it's difficult to get that thick skin you so wonderfully have, and good for you! Some women may have mental health issues relating to trauma inflicted by males, repeatedly. So do you suggest I 'reframe my trauma' or do you have a slightly more humane alternative in mind?

What makes you think you do not have thick skin?
(I am diagnosed with and medicated for cPTSD trauma is no stranger to me.)

I have as thick a skin as any with the same diagnosis. Do not fucking shame me for my physiological reactions and my therapy progress.

Just to explain @Discovereads, I cannot go to sleep with an unknown male in a hospital setting, for example. I was highly uncomfortable waiting with in the same space with a male in a unisex loo. If a male would've told me they'll 'take their time' getting off my property my adrenaline and cortisol would rise, and I may be triggered into a cPTSD episode you must know all about. Is that acceptable to you? What is your solution? NB Have been having therapy for years, just not succeeding just as well as you clearly are. Must be pathetic and unworthy of consideration/empathy. If only I had a cock

This thread is funny. TRAs decide that PP has literally kicked the Waitrose delivery man off her property. On finding she didn't, it becomes "verbal assault" instead.

www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/v95g2k/have_terfs_jumped_the_shark/

Yes. This.

And I have watched the video twice.

A male saying this is threatening behaviour and I am quite astounded anybody is trying to parse it anyway else.