Cue outrage: Gervais' new Netflix special just dropped.

[mirax]

Supernature is taking absolutely, absolutely no prisoners. I am 7 minutes in with a mojito in hand.

Satire is meant to ridicule power.

Something so ghoulish about this made up quote attributed to Terry Pratchett. As if he’d ever write that badly!

Here are some actual Terry Pratchett quotes:

"First sight is when you can see what's really there, not what you heid tells you ought to be there...Second sight is dull sight, it's seeing only what you expect to see." ― Terry Pratchett, The Wee Free Men

“The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it.” ― Terry Pratchett, Diggers

More at the link, it was a real labour of love from someone on Ovarit compiling the list.

I wonder if even the person who posted that trite and stupid “quote” might be able to spot the difference between their sloppy reheated cliche and the wise and funny genuine article.

Oh Catherina, how did I guess that you wouldn't like it?

So....you adored him when he was making fun of fat people and disabled people, which he has always done in his comedy, from the very beginning? But somehow now he's not acceptable....

Or I'm guessing you are trying that faux 'oh I used to be one of you, but this is too far' crap we get from the ploppers like yourself who show up whenever there is a news story.

In that case he's fine here, as it's women who are being hurt.

Gervais said nothing that TRAs themselves have not said. That's it; he repeated back to them their own lines. He's holding a mirror up to them, and they didn't like what it showed.

A solution that will perhaps meet the approval of the monitors:

mobile.twitter.com/BurnsideNotTosh/status/1529418642345058304?cxt=HHwWgICznd2Jy7kqAAAA

Comedy regulator and rules now!

Twitter's blue monkeys are shovelling a lot of anti-Gervais tweets into my timeline this morning.

Watched last night, didn't like all of it but found a lot of it absolutely hilarious - had a real nostalgic trip back to the 11 O'Clock Show days. He has always had this persona as a performer, just is now an elder statesman type that younger comics want to see as an irrelevance (while being jealous of his success I imagine).

As pp pointed out, there is a bit just after halfway through that contextualises the earlier trans jokes (in a way that was very reminiscent of JKR's 'live your best life' tweet) - he knows full well that will be what causes uproar despite a whole show of tasteless gags about all sorts of other things, which is one of the points he's making.

I'll be fairly certain anyone moaning about it in my news feeds has not watched the whole thing despite the mad angry crying. But RG has no case to answer.

Robin Ince at it again, calling RG a "poster boy for the alt right". Really??

Didn't realise there was a vetting process to who is allowed to laugh at anyone's jokes. Chortle goes on to stick the boot into Gervais because Glenn Beck thought it was funny.

A few years ago I'd have fallen for all of this. It's insane.

https://www.chortle.co.uk/news/2022/05/26/50859/rickygervaisshasbecomeearoleemodelforrthealt-right?rss&fbclid=IwAR0rQ6B51aII8FxxWEemirR8M32PiSdYOspEDPj-gThJHnLOplVhvroAGI&fs=e&s=cl

Robin Ince is an idiot. I don't know how Gia Milinovich hasn't instructed Brian to smack him over the head with something heavy - like a biology textbook!

Certainly makes one think less of a person if they should really know better than to fall for this crap.
See also Alice Roberts.

Can’t help but think Robin is just very bitter about Ricky’s meteoric rise in caparison to his own silent fart of a career.

It's always been the case that comedians like Kumar, boyle, Acaster and Ince who support the establishment (universities, the media, lots of corporations all have the same world views) are very angry at other comedians for being more questioning of mainstream opinions.

"I'm a fucking TERF whore!’”
Just had a lovely T-shirt made with this on. Replaces my 'live,laugh,love' one.

Ugh every time I hear Boyles name it gives me the rage with his "low hanging fruit" comment, the guy who mocked a specific disabled child accusing someone else of punching down, the absolute bare faced cheek of him!

Never forget Frankie Boyle joked about Katie Price’s disabled child raping her.

didn't mock pronouns so he’s ok with the TRAs.

Since his TV comeback, he seems like a man leashed, with no real conviction in the work he's involved in. He seems really weary, and just agreeing with the young comedians because he has to.

I think he still humiliated from when he lost his TV work after the rape joke, and also resentful for what he has to do to get TV work now.

That's why he's angry with RG - he's can still find and say the funny in anything he wants, boyle can't.

He wrote for The Sun too, yet somehow avoids being a Right Wing Bigot.

On a slightly different note, did anyone else notice how much Ricky kept banging on about his wealth/how rich he is/how he's a millionaire/how he can afford this and that blah blah blah???

I find it very it very odd, vulgar, and classless, when someone brags about their 'wealth.' It often signifies they're trying to compensate for something too.

Something in their life is shit/wrong/bad and they're not terribly happy, so they brag about their 'wealth' and flash cars, expensive houses, and fancy holidays abroad etc... Wonder that's going wrong/gone wrong in his life?

I really don’t think so.
I think it’s to preempt inverse snobbery.

I don't think anything has gone wrong in his life. He is rich, that's the reality of his life. I much prefer it to some man of the people shtick.

I always thought RG's stand up persona was supposed to be a bit of an arsehole, so took the bragging about money as part of that. Like I said earlier it very much reminded me of his comedy on the 11 O'Clock Show in the 90s, which was similarly deliberately obnoxious in delivery. I could be wrong though!

LGB Alliance's view:

twitter.com/ALLIANCELGB/status/1529838226076311560

It’s not for us to defend individual jokes that
@rickygervais
makes in his shows. We’d rather he didn’t make jokes about AIDS but we defend his right to tell them. The policing of speech in the public realm means that the role of performers has never been more important. 1/2

twitter.com/ALLIANCELGB/status/1529838227552620544

They can say the unsayable and that may empower ordinary employees in hospitals, schools and offices to speak up. Gender identity ideology is full of absurd contradictions and surreal claims - you’d have to have a heart of stone not to laugh at it. 2/2

Joanna William's comment in the Times:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/bf4828ae-dd23-11ec-8de3-573a6521e09e?shareToken=068b86f2184c4ff29177157b2afb91d8

DH - who doesn't usually watch stand up and rarely engages in politics (much less anything on FWR!) - declared it "funny and true" over dinner. And said Stonewall "have shown themselves in their true colours...how can they tell us what to talk about?". Then "they're like a terror group".

To me, that shows this is cutting through.

I have a very weird "six degrees of..." connection with one of the people behind The 11 O'Clock Show that I haven't thought about in years! I'm still very vaguely in touch with an ex who is married to my connection (we all knew each other back in the day) which makes things stranger still. Not sure where all of the years have gone...

Just finished watching, funny and clever, you aren't expected to agree with him just sit back and take what you want from it