Standing for Women Manchester event Sun 15 May

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Currently streaming live on You Tube. Fantastic turnout many inspiring women speaking. Watch it if you can .. on Kellie Jay's YouTube channel.

Thanks for that. My 7nderstanding then is that the church wants to give a 300 year lease but this is seen to some as being controlling what is going on when reality it is just the church keeping control of the land for business purposes.
Does anyone know about the unburied dead babies?

The Telegraph have an article about the woman who was pushed around at the Manchester event with video. JKR is mentioned as tweeting in support.

Has Piers vs the Pamper been posted yet?

mobile.twitter.com/PiersUncensored/status/1526301720233615361

The Pamper explains the essence of the trans rights movement very well. I hope it goes viral.

@BorgQueen
Sorry I'm a bit late to this

Why were they allowed to stand there looking like a paramilitary group?
It should be illegal to have your face covered like that in public - how is it not, at the very least, a breach of the peace to be deliberately intimidating and prevent people looking at a public statue?

It is a public order offence (in certain circumstances), the police must have made a decision to ignore it.

The relevant law is Section 1, Public Order Act 1936. This says that it is an offence to wear a uniform in a public place while involved with the "promotion of any political object".

To my mind they were clearly wearing a uniform and involved with promoting a political object.

In the past, this law has been used to convict members of Sinn Fein when they were wearing black berets at Speakers Corner and, more recently, members of the far-right group Britain First were convicted for wearing the same colour jackets and beanie hats while walking the streets of Croydon in 2016.

I must admit that this is the first time that I've ever seen a group of TRAs all dressed in black so it may be that nobody knew that they were signifying their association with TRAs by doing this.

But, going forward, I think it would be clear that people dressing all in black at these demonstrations were deliberately signifying their association with TRAs and they would be committing an offence.

Whether the police will act on it is another matter though.

Has Piers vs the Pamper been posted yet? https://mobile.twitter.com/PiersUncensored/status/15263017202336153611^^ The Pamper explains the essence of the trans rights movement very well. I hope it goes viral.^

That's the best interview ever do watch, everyone! And Piers disapproving of KJ saying she was "transphobic" because as she rightly points out it just means not believing their ideology and standing up for women, she handled him very well though!

I also like Misogyninjas

The twit that was interviewed by Piers Morgan said they have video evidence of the women starting the fighting , has this been posted anywhere does anybody know ?

@FemaleAndLearning
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I had a quick look. All I can see are the claims of other videos.

A few TRA's have said they have evidence of being harassed - but they have lost it, or whatever. There will be tons of CCTV round there, and there were lots of police. I'd like to see what's on their body cams.

@WomanWomenGirlsFemale
It doesn't exist. If it did, it'd be everywhere. It's a well-worn lie, in the hopes of looking more mannered in their very male approach to women. It's a vile, ugly lie, but a lie nonetheless.

😂

In the middle of his interview with Piers Morgan, that poundshop Magenta Devine said that the TRAs dressed in black with balaclavas were 'security'. His word - 'security'.

Piers didn't pick up on this, but I was very interested in this claim. Anyone who has ever organised an event, from a Palm Sunday Parade to FiLiA, knows exactly how rigorous the checks, training, certification and badging are for 'security' at events and how much liaison needs to take place between the event organisers, the police and the local authority.

I'd be interested to know what 'liaison' took place between the police and the black pampers over 'security'.

Poor Magenta!

It's interesting watching batshit Twitter transactivism play out in a Piers Morgan interview.

Getting this into the mainstream was always going to be its death knell.

There is no rational argument for what they are proposing. The only way you can ever get away with it even looking vaguely not bonkers is to not really talk about it. Just emote generally in terms of rights, or conversion therapy, or oppression.

And Piers Morgan must know that every single thing he thinks would be deemed transphobic.

i'm not sure why he honed in on all that with Kellie. He must know that she's right. And its way, way pass the time when sitting on the fence even looks vaguely neutral.

He's behind the curve on that.

Perhaps the dog ate it.

I think that Jame on that Piers interview did a great job. I was left with the overriding impression that Jame was also protesting because they thought it was ‘a bit of fun’ like them giving the interview to Piers Morgan.

All a bit of a laugh really.

Thing is, all the work that the trans community has done to be taken seriously, and for people to buy into their claims, is very much diminished by these protestors every time.

Young males with suck my dick placards and writing crap on pavements.

Young males harassing people entering into a multi-conference venue. Even those people not attending the feminist conference.

Young females and males protesting a meeting to discuss maternity and other women’s health issues.

Female transitioners who then reverse dress up as female babies (ie a female who has transitioned to a male but also identifies as a female toddler) wearing I am slut slogans getting up to speak at westminster protests.

Young males and females at this Manchester protest. And Jame is their spokesperson. A person who couldn’t get a coherent and logical argument across and resorted to a rant and that confession. ‘A bit of fun.’

Not a lot to be proud about when you strip it down to look at who is doing what.

I suggest each time these activists protest, they really are undermining their goal. And public sympathy.

i'm not sure why he honed in on all that with Kellie. He must know that she's right. And its way, way pass the time when sitting on the fence even looks vaguely neutral.

Of course he know this.

I believe he was initially attempting to point out that the word transphobic has been overused as KJK was saying. KJK took it further than he expected and ended up making him have to back pedal.

I am not sure it is a clever move to weaken the word even further by claiming it as she has. But it certainly would have got the message across if he had just let her expand on her points. As it was too much time left her points unexpanded and would not be as welcomed by newcomers to the argument as another minute discussion on those points.

It became a discussion on labels without what KJK is actually stating away from single stark sentences.

He should have backed off and let her speak instead he ended up virtue signaling his own views. But that is Piers Morgan, isn’t it?

It's also galling that a lot of these male presenters thinks that men naming themselves as women is fine. As though it's just some kind of naming convention. Nothing to do with, as Kellie calls it, the thin out of the wedge, and the foundation of an ideology that erases women as a sex class

We've seen it before from men. A male in a dress who calls himself a female name is fine to be called a woman, because 'frankly, he's not like any bloke we know'.

But, as soon as you mention sport, of course it's all nooo, that's absolutely not on.

The complete failure to grasp the implications of the ideology is depressing.

(by the way, HQ, I'm not calling transwomen men in dresses, I'm using the term in the mouth of a hypothetical man, to give a hypothetical answer to illustrate my point).

Yes Datun.

Sadly, it is not just the male presenters.

Of course he know this. I believe he was initially attempting to point out that the word transphobic has been overused as KJK was saying. KJK took it further than he expected and ended up making him have to back pedal.

Yes, I think so.

Spot on, Datun

He should have backed off and let her speak instead he ended up virtue signaling his own views. But that is Piers Morgan, isn’t it?

I think he was genuinely thrown by the batshit immaturity of "Jame" and needed to assert himself.

"I only came on here because I thought it'd be kind of funny".
As usual, either couldn't answer the questions (even very basic ones put by Piers Morgan ffs, not like it's an intellectual debate) or didn't want to because the answers would make them look bad.

Treating women's rights as a laugh. That's all they have.

Treating women's rights as a laugh. That's all they have.

It is. What a dick.