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Nappy wearing Father / access to his children

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Cockblockingcowboy · 08/05/2022 04:29

Apologies for the DM link but as we know they seem to have no problem showing the sunshine on some of these issues

Father banned from seeing his kids over his fetish for wearing nappies

And this is what happens when "kink shaming" is banned. What kind of normal parent would even think this behaviour is ok around children?

Good on the mother for taking legal action and I hope the Courts maintain it for the sake of their children

OP posts:
timeisnotaline · 08/05/2022 04:50

That’s a funny looking link, I’m not clicking it.

BananaBender · 08/05/2022 05:00

It’s a real story. Here’s a link:
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10793525/A-father-banned-seeing-kids-fetish-wearing-nappies.html#article-10793525

Cockblockingcowboy · 08/05/2022 05:19

Apologies for the dodgy looking link, I'm on my phone so I think it's the link to the mobile site.

Unfortunately it is a real article in the DM. I wish it wasn't as I feel very sorry for the children involved; and sadly I actually hope that there is a cognitive issue with the father for the reasons why he thinks this is acceptable for his children to witness

OP posts:
ScreamingMeMe · 08/05/2022 08:28

Anyone remember Dylan Redwine (I don't normally do content warnings but will for this, it's horrifying and disgusting):

www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9796711/amp/Colorado-dad-guilty-killing-son-Dylan-Redwine-photos-eating-feces.html

Hoardasurass · 08/05/2022 09:04

I really do hope that his appeal to the high court is thrown out

Whatwouldscullydo · 08/05/2022 09:22

If " who you are" stops you from being able to see your kids wouldn't you want to change who you are?

Presumably he has no medical need fir the nappies? Does he not think openly mocking disabled people who struggle with continance issues and turning their life into a fetish is perhaps not a good example to set his kids?

Why do his nappies mean more to him that his own children?

They are better off without him.

Artichokeleaves · 08/05/2022 10:00

This is what happens when you indulge a culture to grow that any boundaries of any kind are wrong, shaming anyone is wrong, and that kink is something to be proud of and throw in the face of strangers and to involve non consenting others including kids as a gesture of personal freedoms.

No. Boundaries are good things and essential to protect others from those who will not choose to behave well out of consideration or respect, and there are some things that yes, adults should bloody well be very ashamed of. Glad this individual ran up against a 'no' and the children's interests were placed above their father's.

Whatwouldscullydo · 08/05/2022 10:07

This is what happens when you indulge a culture to grow that any boundaries of any kind are wrong, shaming anyone is wrong, and that kink is something to be proud of and throw in the face of strangers and to involve non consenting others including kids as a gesture of personal freedoms

Not to mention how amongst this that growing up and having what most people would take as a healthy and mutually enjoyable happy sex life with their partners, is now seen as boring and vanilla and something ti be embarrassed about. Now we have young teens engaging in activities that have the potential to leave them permanently damaged, again to validate extreme choices of adults.

There's nothing phobic or Shame worthy in saying that what happens in the bedroom should stay in the bedroom between consenting adults. We don't need to know about it or hear about it and show our acceptance of it. Its not consensual after all if children and even over adults are being used this way as part of it.

Artichokeleaves · 08/05/2022 10:09

In essence this person has a sex addiction that has taken over their life and blurred balance and appropriacy and ability to recognise other factors and other people's interests in the way that other addictions do.

The problem is the exploiting of the narrative of inclusion to try and justify expressing it freely and forcing involvement upon others rather than firm boundaries of 'you have a problem, and you are not ok'.

HereAgainFFS · 08/05/2022 10:11

Maybe some kinks should be shameful.

heathspeedwell · 08/05/2022 10:28

So his poor ex wife had to take legal action because he started to have his nappy on show in front of his children.

And this is the problem with certain fetishes. Part of the sexual thrill comes from forcing non-consenting people to be involved. For many nappy-wearers and furries, forcing unsuspecting bystanders to smell the contents of the nappy is the boundary they are so keen to cross.

Transwoman Sophie Labelle drew a cartoon all about it, before coming under fire for creating nappy fetish cartoons based on photos of real babies.

BubblegumIceLollies · 08/05/2022 10:29

Artichokeleaves · 08/05/2022 10:00

This is what happens when you indulge a culture to grow that any boundaries of any kind are wrong, shaming anyone is wrong, and that kink is something to be proud of and throw in the face of strangers and to involve non consenting others including kids as a gesture of personal freedoms.

No. Boundaries are good things and essential to protect others from those who will not choose to behave well out of consideration or respect, and there are some things that yes, adults should bloody well be very ashamed of. Glad this individual ran up against a 'no' and the children's interests were placed above their father's.

Absolutely

ImaniMumsnet · 08/05/2022 10:32

HI OP,

Just to let you know we have edited your opening post to remove the link.

Best wishes.

MaChienEstUnDick · 08/05/2022 10:36

HereAgainFFS · 08/05/2022 10:11

Maybe some kinks should be shameful.

Under-rated tweet, as the young say.

DisgustedofManchester · 08/05/2022 10:37

Lets not throw those who have to wear adult nappies under the bus at the same time though shall we. Unless there was some obvious sexual demonstration then those who have medical reasons for having to wear adult nappies are dmoenstrating the same behaviour including public shaming.

Lovelyricepudding · 08/05/2022 10:39

So the courts have recognised that children should not be used or exposed to adults identifying as babies as this is a sexual fetishism but.... well we are not even allowed to discuss certain direct and clear comparable issues are we?

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 08/05/2022 10:41

Artichokeleaves · 08/05/2022 10:00

This is what happens when you indulge a culture to grow that any boundaries of any kind are wrong, shaming anyone is wrong, and that kink is something to be proud of and throw in the face of strangers and to involve non consenting others including kids as a gesture of personal freedoms.

No. Boundaries are good things and essential to protect others from those who will not choose to behave well out of consideration or respect, and there are some things that yes, adults should bloody well be very ashamed of. Glad this individual ran up against a 'no' and the children's interests were placed above their father's.

This, in spades.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 08/05/2022 10:48

DisgustedofManchester · 08/05/2022 10:37

Lets not throw those who have to wear adult nappies under the bus at the same time though shall we. Unless there was some obvious sexual demonstration then those who have medical reasons for having to wear adult nappies are dmoenstrating the same behaviour including public shaming.

Don't be silly. This has nothing to do with adults with health problems involving incontinence. Nobody would have anything but sympathy for them. The news report makes it very clear that's not what's happened in this Australian case.

He claimed he was being discriminated against because of his association with the 'Adult Baby-Diaper Lover' community.

'I feel for and have always respected other minority identities who have been persecuted or treated differently just for being who they are,' he wrote.

DysonSphere · 08/05/2022 11:04

For many nappy-wearers and furries, forcing unsuspecting bystanders to smell the contents of the nappy is the boundary they are so keen to cross.

I beg your pardon??!!

Sometimes I realise how naive and innocent I am.

How utterly vile.

oakleaffy · 08/05/2022 11:25

The case years ago of a dirty~nappy fetishist who murdered his poor son makes this a far from 'Harmless' kink.
The case was mentioned upthread.

Grown men who 'Eliminate' in nappies for the ''Kink'' of it, rather than because they have a disability is a bit ''Odd'', especially on the day when he is meant to be having the kids.

....''Daddy needs changing''
Waving his hairy legs and size nines in the air on an outsized changing mat...

🤔

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 08/05/2022 11:34

This was a nasty case a few years back in Canada where staff and students hit back and claimed the male nappy wearer was sexually harassing them.

www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/vancouver-island-university-fetish-student-professor-fired-1.4400306

He responded to a request for comment saying he was unable to speak about the matter for legal reasons. "I will say I am special needs and 3, so I am not in my 40s," he wrote to CBC.

Really. Hmm

ThatWillBeAllJeeves · 08/05/2022 11:40

DisgustedofManchester · 08/05/2022 10:37

Lets not throw those who have to wear adult nappies under the bus at the same time though shall we. Unless there was some obvious sexual demonstration then those who have medical reasons for having to wear adult nappies are dmoenstrating the same behaviour including public shaming.

This is the bloody problem!

As if anyone was saying people who have to wear adult nappies are in this category.

Nobody can say anything anymore because people like you will bluster up and say that you could possibly be insulting a completely different group.

LunaLights · 08/05/2022 11:47

And again, DOM expertly demonstrates a profound inability to read or understand context….

oakleaffy · 08/05/2022 11:52

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 08/05/2022 11:34

This was a nasty case a few years back in Canada where staff and students hit back and claimed the male nappy wearer was sexually harassing them.

www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/vancouver-island-university-fetish-student-professor-fired-1.4400306

He responded to a request for comment saying he was unable to speak about the matter for legal reasons. "I will say I am special needs and 3, so I am not in my 40s," he wrote to CBC.

Really. Hmm

''*In the document she said he presented himself to female staff at different campuses — in several cases asking them to change his soiled diapers. Eventually he came to Roth complaining of discrimination.

"He's unfortunately obsessed with the fecal matter," said Roth.

As she investigated his complaint she pushed for a sexual violence risk assessment — as the man who came to her claiming a disability seemed to have a sexual fetish he was subjecting others to, the document reveals.*''

MrsOvertonsWindow · 08/05/2022 12:01

It's always very telling when evidenced cases of adult fetishes negatively impacting on children are hand waved away. Almost as if we have a group of men in society determined to inflict adult fetishes on children and adults who cannot consent. Confused

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