Nappy wearing Father / access to his children

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Apologies for the DM link but as we know they seem to have no problem showing the sunshine on some of these issues

Father banned from seeing his kids over his fetish for wearing nappies

And this is what happens when "kink shaming" is banned. What kind of normal parent would even think this behaviour is ok around children?

Good on the mother for taking legal action and I hope the Courts maintain it for the sake of their children

It's almost as if DOM is using the shield of a proper medical condition to cover the actions of a group with a fetish.

When in fact, it is those with a nappy-fetish who are increasing the likelihood that people who actually need incontinence products, may feel shame.

As the general public become aware that nappy fetishes exist, they might view people with suspicion who genuinely need to buy pads, have large sanitary bins in the toilets etc.

The man in this article clearly doesn't have a medical issue though, so it's doubly cruel to use them to stifle discussion about the fetish.

Psychologists have been saying for many years that paraphilias cluster. So if somebody has one kink they are likely to have more. Although obviously this isn't always the case, it seems that some people can become addicted to the thrill of pushing boundaries.

@DisgustedofManchester hahahaha you are absolutely transparent.

Always the black and white thinking and forced teaming in an endless whackamole attempt to shut females up from saying no to males behaving in appalling ways.

"You can't say no to them because you might by association and a lot of crowbars and squinting possibly be perceived as also talking about this totally innocent group I'm using to shame you into silence!"

No, I don't think anyone capable of critical thinking is going to be confused.

DoM shares the same level of reading comprehension as most of the other posters who tend to share the same opinions.

Transwoman Sophie Labelle drew a cartoon all about it, before coming under fire for creating nappy fetish cartoons based on photos of real babies.

I well recall the valorisation Sophie Labelle received for the transgression of boundaries and the argument that lots of trans people embrace being 'littlies' because it's a way of re-experiencing the childhood in the desired gender.

A number of threads available through MN's own search and by putting this into a search engine.

site:mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights sophie labelle

Yes indeed. After David Challoner's conviction for raping a child, for which he is serving a long prison sentence, it emerged that he and several members of his extended family were adult diaper fetishists and in at least two cases also furries, all evidenced in the open for anyone to find if they'd thought it necessary to look - which neither the Green Party nor the LibDems did before promoting Aimee Challenor to prominent political roles when Aimee was scarcely old enough to vote and allowing Challenor senior to act as election agent while awaiting trial.

the thing is most of the time, these kinks arnt normal, they are alongside a teisted sexual fantasy/ interest such as phedophilia etc. they can be really dangerous. they like non consentual participants to be inlcuded in theyre kinks in some form.

I'm incontinent after having my kid and sometimes pads don't cut it and I have to use adult nappies and my family have ribbed me for it because it's been so fetishised.

I'm constantly having to tell people who notice in a really jokey way it's a necessity not a fetish.

This man is not normal and needs to change.

I'm very sorry to hear that, @Jimmyneutronsforehead .

I'm incontinent after having my kid and sometimes pads don't cut it and I have to use adult nappies

That sounds wretchedly uncomfortable. I'm so sorry that there doesn't seem to be a medical or surgical solution for you (unless you're on a waiting list which must be horrible).

I saw the article as well today (my brother send it to me) and I want to say one thing: I am DISGUSTED, but with the article but by all of these comments YOU have been typing on here.

Has anyone of you actually done any research on this exact topic? If so then you would know better then this.

A lot of people don't know why exactly someone from the ABDL community does what they do. This is the cause for a lot of misinformation and in term, to bigger problems like this one.

For the uneducated, let me give you a short summary of who they actually are. Afterwards you can cast your vote.

ABDL stand for an Adult Baby/ Diaper Lover. There is also a seperate thing called a Little. I will go over them in order.

• An AB is someone who want to go back to simplicity of early childhood. This does include the use of diapers/clothing/toys/... to simulate this. This is mostly used for stress relief from the adult world. But CAN be a more sexual thing if done with a partner who accepts this.

-A DL is someone who is only interested in the diapers. Which might include using them for their intended purpose. The same applies here where it can be used as a coping mechanism or for convenience (some wear them to concerts, long car trips, ...)

• A little being the final one is a bit special. They also want to go back to more simple times but then as older kids (post potty training mostly) to enjoy the things that they did as kids (but CAN also include diapers if pleased).

As I have said most of the times it is used as a destresser or a coping mechanism for adult who experience a lot of stress. It CAN be sexual but that is more of a rare case as far as I know.

I personally find it weird that the article does not exactly say WHY he is wearing them. This would make it easier to know and make a descision. I find it wrong that they wife decided todo what she did. As long as the man keeps it to himself (he can start doing that as a compromise), then what is the issue?

You can all hammer on me after this if you want but at least now you know why tye ABDL community exists and what they do. Don't let this article change your view on them. They did nothing wrong, the ones who don't know any better did.

I saw the article as well today (my brother send it to me) and I want to say one thing: I am DISGUSTED, but with the article but by all of these comments YOU have been typing on here.

All of them? Including @Jimmyneutronsforehead rather poignant account of her own troubles? You have your own cognitive preferences and biases, as we all do, but it seems rather disturbing that you would engage in such hyperbolic discounting of JNF's experience.

Sir Richard of Panda had retweeted this.

mobile.twitter.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1520481625024434176

I RTFT and agree with this statement. This story reminds me of this from a year-ish ago:

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/sex-monster-killer-moans-hes-23890060

And around that time, the Law Commission was consulting on hate crime. A consultation which bemoaned the lack of protection for those with a fetish.

Sorry but no. Fetishes are not a get out of jail free card, or something the law should recognise and protect.

And wearing a nappy around kids is very far from normal parenting behaviour. It definitely raises red flags and I couldn't care less if the monitors think this means MNers are repressed / hateful / bigoted. Try going on Question Time and telling the nation that Adult Nappy Wearers ought to form a protected group in law, and tell me how you get on.

It's one thing for children to learn that one of their parents has a physical condition which means they can't use the loo like the rest of the family. It's quite another for children to find out that one of their parents deliberately wets or soils themselves and wears adult nappies for this purpose. What's a child supposed to make of this? They have to abide by the rules and use the loo as their parents laboriously trained them to do when they were toddlers, but one of their parents can choose not to do that when they feel like it?

There is a name for parents who involve their children in their sexual fetishism.

There is a name for people who support those adults too.

Is it coincide that you saw this post here then or did come here looking for people being shocked?

FWIW I don’t think that we should ‘yuck someone else’s yum’ but only when that yum is between consenting adults. If someone is getting their jollies by using a nappy in their own home or in the company of other consenting adults, crack on. If they are getting off on shitting themselves in the middle aisle of Lidl, then no thank you.

So, if we take this idea idea to its 'ad absurdo' conclusion - if an adult male identified as a "little", could he join Cubs, or even Beavers? If he did join Cubs as a little-identifying person, would he be allowed to sleep in Cub accommodation with the other children on overnight trips. given that he identifies as a pre-pubescent boy? Does anyone have any problems with that?

Transwoman Sophie Labelle drew a cartoon all about it, before coming under fire for creating nappy fetish cartoons based on photos of real babies.

Bit of a tangent, but one of the many things that convinced me to give up on the Vagina Museum back in 2018 was the announcement that its founder was doing an event with Labelle to promote Labelle’s new book.

Take it a step further. We know that Girlguiding is for both sexes. If said person identified as a pre-pubescent girl - like one famous example in Canada - could they join Brownies / Rainbows?

I'd forgotten about that pathetic individual. You make a very valid point, in general, though Empressaurus. I wish i could be bothered to ask GGUK about this.

I wish it wasn’t a valid point, Pony. I wish it was utter bollocks.

No, what you are reffering to is would be tye same as identifying as an animal or a different gender, which is not the case. Being a little is a temporary mental headspace meant to block of any adult stress. This should not he seen as an excuse to join any kind of clubs because that would be ridiculous.

That is what I have been saying as not being educated enough in the subject at hand, because of that you make these false conclusions.

Don't you think if you are struggling so much with your life you have to put on a nappy and a onsie that perhaps you should seek therapy instead?