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Nappy wearing Father / access to his children

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Cockblockingcowboy · 08/05/2022 04:29

Apologies for the DM link but as we know they seem to have no problem showing the sunshine on some of these issues

Father banned from seeing his kids over his fetish for wearing nappies

And this is what happens when "kink shaming" is banned. What kind of normal parent would even think this behaviour is ok around children?

Good on the mother for taking legal action and I hope the Courts maintain it for the sake of their children

OP posts:
PastMyBestBeforeDate · 09/05/2022 10:58

I hadn't considered the curating of victimhood Roaring. I'm naive!

RoaringtoLangClegintheDark · 09/05/2022 11:03

PastMyBestBeforeDate · 09/05/2022 10:58

I hadn't considered the curating of victimhood Roaring. I'm naive!

Who knows what lengths people will go to! I just thought it was unlikely anyone would have reported originally, but if someone did and Spadon really was instabanned, it could only be because of them being a PBP. And if no one reported, there must be an agenda behind the name change and accusation of banning.

Anyway hopefully MNHQ will be able to shed some light on it. I think it’s safe to assume there is a lack of good faith there, at any rate.

springtimeishereagain · 09/05/2022 11:11

@Spadon - stop trying to excuse this behaviour. There is nothing remotely acceptable about an adult wearing a nappy if they don't need to. Christ on a bike, there are lots of lovely aspects of childhood these people could remember or recreate, yet shitting in a nappy is what they choose? That's a revolting sexual peccadillo; there is no other way to describe it.

Birdsweepsin · 09/05/2022 11:12

I have to say, Suicide Bombers being added to the LGBTQ2SAA bunch. Didn't see that coming.

alwayscrashinginthesamecar1 · 09/05/2022 11:24

Hahaha you jumped the shark with the suicide-bombers Spadon! Or are you really asking us to be tolerant of nice suicide bombers? Or something else entirely? Because I'm fucked if I know what you are on about.

RufusthefIoraImissingreindeer · 09/05/2022 11:28

Birdsweepsin · 09/05/2022 11:12

I have to say, Suicide Bombers being added to the LGBTQ2SAA bunch. Didn't see that coming.

😀

SpringLobelia · 09/05/2022 11:29

@Spadon quite honestly I do not care what people get up to in their spare time.

But the second they try and involve their children(or indeed non-consenting adults) in their fetish then that is just plain wrong.

Calphurnia88 · 09/05/2022 11:50

Spadon · 09/05/2022 09:26

Not really no. Each person in the world has their own way to deal with stress/hardships of the daily life (be it adults or kids). If one goes to a spa/beauty salon then they do that, if one likes to go to a park to take a breather them they do just that, if one likes to lie down in bed/sofa and listen to a genre of music then they do that.

But when someone wants to wear a diaper and play like a child for a bit of time to destress they suddenly should see a therapist? Could you explain to me exactly why this is different from all the other ones mentioned above? Is it because society sees it as abnormal? Or is it because you don't like men/women doing this as a reason?

What is seen as normal in society these days has changed drastically over the years but sadly a lot of people have not been adjusting to this fact. This is for a lot of people a normal thing now. Sadly seeing ONE out of millions doing something that get's the media's attention suddenly makes the entire community look bad.

The same could be said about suicide bomber years ago. A few destroy building and kill people, and suddenly every single one is looked at with disgust. And then I ask you: what is tue difference?

Wtf did I just read (last paragraph).

@Spadon are you sure this isn't missing some words...? Or are you suggesting we should be kinder to suicide bombers?

The same could be said about suicide bomber years ago. A few destroy building and kill people, and suddenly every single one is looked at with disgust. And then I ask you: what is tue difference?

Artichokeleaves · 09/05/2022 11:58

PonyPatter44 · 08/05/2022 21:53

So, if we take this idea idea to its 'ad absurdo' conclusion - if an adult male identified as a "little", could he join Cubs, or even Beavers? If he did join Cubs as a little-identifying person, would he be allowed to sleep in Cub accommodation with the other children on overnight trips. given that he identifies as a pre-pubescent boy? Does anyone have any problems with that?

That one's been coming for years. Once it's legal to identify as the sex you wish to be, then the precedent is there for personal choice to replace legal fact in other areas too. 50 year old bloke in nappies coming soon to a preschool near you, and 'stunning and brave' will be in the headlines. Parents just need 'educating' about why their children should be props in an adult's personal sexual expression.

No one needs 'educating' about ABWhatevers. What adults choose to do in their sex lives is their problem. A lot of these adults however have missed all the bit in BDSM about consent, about not involving non consenting others in their sexual experiences, about responsibility and respect for others, and about basic healthy boundaries and having some. This business of involving others as props for personal fulfilment is not acceptable, it is a shameful and badly behaved thing to do, and trying to coerce those protesting into shutting up and being used quietly is even more shameful. And utilising children in this way? Way over the line. An adult doing that has a serious problem.

nauticant · 09/05/2022 12:10

Or are you really asking us to be tolerant of nice suicide bombers?

To my mind this is a fascinating tell. About how when someone takes on board these strange ideologies they can find that they lose any ability to be confident and say "actually, THAT, that there, is simply wrong", perhaps because they've become fixated on the idea that being "judgemental" is akin to violence.

axolotlfloof · 09/05/2022 12:38

I can't bring myself to interact with @spadon, but adults have adult responsibilities and should identify with them first.
Parents have parenting responsibilities which should come way ahead of their weird fetishises.
I glad the court stood up for these children.

Birdsweepsin · 09/05/2022 12:41

Flesh-eating zombies rising from their graves, rampaging around town and wantonly destroying stuff are a totally valid minority and your screams of terror are literal violence against a legitimate, misunderstood group.

Neverreturntoathread · 09/05/2022 12:41

Whatwouldscullydo · 08/05/2022 09:22

If " who you are" stops you from being able to see your kids wouldn't you want to change who you are?

Presumably he has no medical need fir the nappies? Does he not think openly mocking disabled people who struggle with continance issues and turning their life into a fetish is perhaps not a good example to set his kids?

Why do his nappies mean more to him that his own children?

They are better off without him.

Very good questions here.

WeBuiltCisCityOnSexistRoles · 09/05/2022 12:51

RoaringtoLangClegintheDark · 09/05/2022 10:50

Either Spadon is a PBP who’s actually been banned, and re-regged under the name Spadonstrikesback, or Spadon is just carefully curating a narrative that this is what has happened, to further their victim status.

Spadon speaks a phenomenal amount of shite, at any rate. Anyone who can make DoM look almost reasonable by comparison is truly in a league of their own.

I never report posts like spadons as I think they should stay so people can see them - they really show the total lack of critical thinking, or the extremely unpleasant/sinister agenda of people defending this behaviour.

TheWeeDonkey · 09/05/2022 12:59

Suicide bombers???

What the he'll is he putting in that nappy????? 😲

Artichokeleaves · 09/05/2022 13:03

Birdsweepsin · 09/05/2022 12:41

Flesh-eating zombies rising from their graves, rampaging around town and wantonly destroying stuff are a totally valid minority and your screams of terror are literal violence against a legitimate, misunderstood group.

I'm pretty sure that 'flesh eating' is a slur and protein focused is this week's way to phrase it, while 'zombies' is an outdated and medicalised term for a group who it is more inclusive to term as 'alive' (as opposed to the 'cis alive', with their obvious privilege then mentioned.) Obviously some people will be eaten as a result of this very vulnerable and marginalised group expressing themselves, but the kind thing to do is appreciate this is a fair price for the alive to live their best lives in a modern, inclusive society. #BeKind. <sad and highly judgy look>

Notbluepeter · 09/05/2022 13:23

Spadon · 08/05/2022 21:01

I saw the article as well today (my brother send it to me) and I want to say one thing: I am DISGUSTED, but with the article but by all of these comments YOU have been typing on here.

Has anyone of you actually done any research on this exact topic? If so then you would know better then this.

A lot of people don't know why exactly someone from the ABDL community does what they do. This is the cause for a lot of misinformation and in term, to bigger problems like this one.

For the uneducated, let me give you a short summary of who they actually are. Afterwards you can cast your vote.

ABDL stand for an Adult Baby/ Diaper Lover. There is also a seperate thing called a Little. I will go over them in order.

  • An AB is someone who want to go back to simplicity of early childhood. This does include the use of diapers/clothing/toys/... to simulate this. This is mostly used for stress relief from the adult world. But CAN be a more sexual thing if done with a partner who accepts this.

-A DL is someone who is only interested in the diapers. Which might include using them for their intended purpose. The same applies here where it can be used as a coping mechanism or for convenience (some wear them to concerts, long car trips, ...)

  • A little being the final one is a bit special. They also want to go back to more simple times but then as older kids (post potty training mostly) to enjoy the things that they did as kids (but CAN also include diapers if pleased).

As I have said most of the times it is used as a destresser or a coping mechanism for adult who experience a lot of stress. It CAN be sexual but that is more of a rare case as far as I know.

I personally find it weird that the article does not exactly say WHY he is wearing them. This would make it easier to know and make a descision. I find it wrong that they wife decided todo what she did. As long as the man keeps it to himself (he can start doing that as a compromise), then what is the issue?

You can all hammer on me after this if you want but at least now you know why tye ABDL community exists and what they do. Don't let this article change your view on them. They did nothing wrong, the ones who don't know any better did.

You make my stomach turn. It is a sick sadistic delight to force your children to endure your fetish. And to prioritise this at the expense of ever seeing them again speaks for itself.
Are you seriously equating the 'one bad apple' stance after reading all these replies.
Replies warning that paraphilias cluster. Replies that evidence that such things are an escalating risk, including David Challoner's heinous offences. You want to condone a fetish that involves infantilising, and then wash your hands of the consequences where one extreme leads to another.
I hope you have no children under your care.

KimikosNightmare · 09/05/2022 13:29

Just agreeing with everyone who isn't Spadon.

2bazookas · 09/05/2022 13:34

To this day, I very much doubt our happy well adjusted adult offspring have the faintest inkling of our sex lives. Then, now, ever. Nor do we, of theirs. Then, now. ever.

So long as legal sex doesn't impinge on the lives of parents' children it's no threat to them (and nobody elses business).

Artichokeleaves · 09/05/2022 13:39

As long as the man keeps it to himself (he can start doing that as a compromise), then what is the issue?

Yes but he isnt is he? That's the point. And you acknowledge in that wall of wholly unnecessary lecturing that this is a problem, and is inappropriate.

But I'm afraid requiring a parent to keep their sexual expressions separate from their children and to be able to maintain appropriate boundaries is not a 'compromise', it's a fundamental requirement to be allowed to retain contact with your children.

This man has the same problem someone would have with drinking or substance abuse moving out of control, impacting on others, removing their sense of appropriacy, boundaries, capacity to parent or ability to retain awareness of their children's needs while putting those needs ahead of personal needs to indulge in the addiction. In this case, it looks highly like a sex addiction.

Whether thats pup play, bondage or any other fetish is wholly irrelevant. 'Understanding' that fetish does not make this behaviour any less wrong.

IncompleteSenten · 09/05/2022 13:43

I don't give a flying fuck why they do what they do.
It is not appropriate to pretend you need to be wearing nappies when you are caring for your children and have your children witness this pretence.

KimikosNightmare · 09/05/2022 13:44

Artichokeleaves · 09/05/2022 13:39

As long as the man keeps it to himself (he can start doing that as a compromise), then what is the issue?

Yes but he isnt is he? That's the point. And you acknowledge in that wall of wholly unnecessary lecturing that this is a problem, and is inappropriate.

But I'm afraid requiring a parent to keep their sexual expressions separate from their children and to be able to maintain appropriate boundaries is not a 'compromise', it's a fundamental requirement to be allowed to retain contact with your children.

This man has the same problem someone would have with drinking or substance abuse moving out of control, impacting on others, removing their sense of appropriacy, boundaries, capacity to parent or ability to retain awareness of their children's needs while putting those needs ahead of personal needs to indulge in the addiction. In this case, it looks highly like a sex addiction.

Whether thats pup play, bondage or any other fetish is wholly irrelevant. 'Understanding' that fetish does not make this behaviour any less wrong.

I meant to make the analogy about alcohol or other addiction. It's exactly the same.

KimikosNightmare · 09/05/2022 13:45

2bazookas · 09/05/2022 13:34

To this day, I very much doubt our happy well adjusted adult offspring have the faintest inkling of our sex lives. Then, now, ever. Nor do we, of theirs. Then, now. ever.

So long as legal sex doesn't impinge on the lives of parents' children it's no threat to them (and nobody elses business).

Way to miss the point. This person was visibly wearing nappies.

ErrolTheDragon · 09/05/2022 14:05

The reasons given by a PP for this behavior seem to be basically a desire to retreat into childishness, self-infantilisation.

Well tough, if you want to be a parent you need to grow up. In the rights and responsibilities balance, the child has the former and the parent the latter.

Staffy1 · 09/05/2022 14:16

The mind boggles. It seems to be overwhelmingly middle aged men that go in for these self-obsessed, attention seeking, unsavoury fetishes.

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