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Nappy wearing Father / access to his children

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Cockblockingcowboy · 08/05/2022 04:29

Apologies for the DM link but as we know they seem to have no problem showing the sunshine on some of these issues

Father banned from seeing his kids over his fetish for wearing nappies

And this is what happens when "kink shaming" is banned. What kind of normal parent would even think this behaviour is ok around children?

Good on the mother for taking legal action and I hope the Courts maintain it for the sake of their children

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StaunchMomma · 09/05/2022 14:24

If he recognises that it's a fetish then surely he gets that fetishes are absolutely not to be indulged in whilst with children, FFS?!!!

Birdsweepsin · 09/05/2022 14:26

They never have a laundry fetish, or a get the shopping done before school pick-up fetish, do they?

GroggyLegs · 09/05/2022 14:38

I love a game of kerplunk and those rainbow scratch books are incredible. I have a sweatshirt with dinosaurs on.

There are ways to indulge your inner child without shitting yourself in public.

PammieDooveOrangeJoof · 09/05/2022 14:43

Fuck me what did I just read 😩

PammieDooveOrangeJoof · 09/05/2022 14:48

That was in response to the Twitter link posted earlier by the way

KimikosNightmare · 09/05/2022 15:34

Just in case this is lost sight of. It must be in the top ten most deranged posts ever on MN.

Spadon · 09/05/2022 09:26

Each person in the world has their own way to deal with stress/hardships of the daily life (be it adults or kids). If one goes to a spa/beauty salon then they do that, if one likes to go to a park to take a breather them they do just that, if one likes to lie down in bed/sofa and listen to a genre of music then they do that

But when someone wants to wear a diaper and play like a child for a bit of time to destress they suddenly should see a therapist? Could you explain to me exactly why this is different from all the other ones mentioned above? Is it because society sees it as abnormal? Or is it because you don't like men/women doing this as a reason?

What is seen as normal in society these days has changed drastically over the years but sadly a lot of people have not been adjusting to this fact. This is for a lot of people a normal thing now. Sadly seeing ONE out of millions doing something that get's the media's attention suddenly makes the entire community look bad

The same could be said about suicide bomber years ago. A few destroy building and kill people, and suddenly every single one is looked at with disgust. And then I ask you: what is tue difference?

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 09/05/2022 17:03

Artichokeleaves · 09/05/2022 13:03

I'm pretty sure that 'flesh eating' is a slur and protein focused is this week's way to phrase it, while 'zombies' is an outdated and medicalised term for a group who it is more inclusive to term as 'alive' (as opposed to the 'cis alive', with their obvious privilege then mentioned.) Obviously some people will be eaten as a result of this very vulnerable and marginalised group expressing themselves, but the kind thing to do is appreciate this is a fair price for the alive to live their best lives in a modern, inclusive society. #BeKind. <sad and highly judgy look>

[Grin] Grin Grin

NippyWoowoo · 10/05/2022 10:35

Birdsweepsin · 09/05/2022 14:26

They never have a laundry fetish, or a get the shopping done before school pick-up fetish, do they?

😂😭

ScreamingMeMe · 10/05/2022 15:21

KimikosNightmare · 09/05/2022 15:34

Just in case this is lost sight of. It must be in the top ten most deranged posts ever on MN.

Spadon · 09/05/2022 09:26

Each person in the world has their own way to deal with stress/hardships of the daily life (be it adults or kids). If one goes to a spa/beauty salon then they do that, if one likes to go to a park to take a breather them they do just that, if one likes to lie down in bed/sofa and listen to a genre of music then they do that

But when someone wants to wear a diaper and play like a child for a bit of time to destress they suddenly should see a therapist? Could you explain to me exactly why this is different from all the other ones mentioned above? Is it because society sees it as abnormal? Or is it because you don't like men/women doing this as a reason?

What is seen as normal in society these days has changed drastically over the years but sadly a lot of people have not been adjusting to this fact. This is for a lot of people a normal thing now. Sadly seeing ONE out of millions doing something that get's the media's attention suddenly makes the entire community look bad

The same could be said about suicide bomber years ago. A few destroy building and kill people, and suddenly every single one is looked at with disgust. And then I ask you: what is tue difference?

I literally have no words for this

ScreamingMeMe · 10/05/2022 15:26

Shitting yourself on purpose: it's just like going to a spa! Relaxing and detoxifying.

Staffy1 · 10/05/2022 17:32

Spadon · 09/05/2022 10:28

No it was a comparison that went to an extreme but got my point across. What I mean is that when one does a thing that is bad suddenly everyone that is even a bit related gets thrown in the same bin (especially where I live...). Now suddenly one guy gets in the news and boom, everyone in the community gets talked bad about...

People should at least learn about certain groups amd communities before throwing them under the bus.

What a strange point to try and make. In other words not all suicide bombers are bad, they’ve just been given a bad name by a few? That last paragraph actually does your argument no favours, because all of that group does deserve to get thrown in the same bin and get looked at with disgust. (As do the other groups you mention, but I don’t think that’s the point you were aiming for).

KimikosNightmare · 10/05/2022 19:24

I don't know where or how to respond to Spadon's clarification. It's still in the top ten most bonkers thing I've ever read on here.

Birdsweepsin · 10/05/2022 20:28

It has been troubling me all day.

If I'm trying to be kind, it's something like 'don't tar everyone with the same brush, not all Muslims are suicide bombers - of course - but their whole community gets attacked because of a few deranged individuals'

Which I kind of get. But that's not what they said.

Twice, they seemed to be suggesting that the kindly suicide bomber folk are getting vilified because one, just one went and killed people. The whole suicide bombing community are really nice people when you get to know them. Diminishing in numbers of course .....

Helleofabore · 10/05/2022 20:54

No it was a comparison that went to an extreme but got my point across. What I mean is that when one does a thing that is bad suddenly everyone that is even a bit related gets thrown in the same bin (especially where I live...). Now suddenly one guy gets in the news and boom, everyone in the community gets talked bad about...

yeah… except… it isn’t ‘one’ person. There is more than one.

And why on earth should a person with this fetish not be discussed to then discuss the whole community of people identifying as infants, toddlers and children when they are adults?

When you also have a transitioned female attending protests as a ‘transman identifying as a baby girl ‘slut’?

I mean, what part of this should not be exposed to the public so they can be fully aware of all aspects of this fetish?

Because what part of this is not a fetish?

Janesmom · 10/05/2022 21:06

If someone wants to engage in a lawful kink in private or with other consenting adults, I think that’s fine. Some kinks are a bit “niche” but so what.

HOWEVER, as soon as you involve children or, indeed, any non-consenting adults, that’s where it crosses a very clear line!

Artichokeleaves · 10/05/2022 21:07

What I mean is that when one does a thing that is bad suddenly everyone that is even a bit related gets thrown in the same bin

When you're talking about people carrying out extreme and obviously unacceptable acts that harm others then the time for nice, liberal middle class virtue signalling to show how very evolved and open minded you are is well and truly over, and you're making a bit of a twit of yourself.

bellac11 · 10/05/2022 21:08

I havent read the full thread but Im taken by something on the first page where I have been worried for a while about this concept of 'being myself' or 'being yourself' and not caring about what others think as a positive thing

To some degree this is a positive thing in terms of people being bullied or discriminated against for disability or looking different, different ethnicities or sexualities for example

But without some parameters around that, there is a sense that this is being used now to justify some quite negative behaviours and presentations. People being 'themselves' who are aggressive, who justify this as 'telling it like it is'.

Or as in this case, no one is now allowed to say that this is having a negative impact on others and so no,, you cant be 'who you are' because who you are is quite an abusive thing.

Theres an advert thats been on for a while, couldnt even tell you what its for actually but its full of 'characters' talking about how they want to be them and one of them says 'I dont want to leave my identity at the door when I come to work'. And that just exemplifies the issue. You actually have to leave some parts of your identity behind when you are with others or at work or being a parent for example. You cant force negative bits of you on others just because you're 'proud' of who you are.

Helleofabore · 10/05/2022 21:18

Janesmom · 10/05/2022 21:06

If someone wants to engage in a lawful kink in private or with other consenting adults, I think that’s fine. Some kinks are a bit “niche” but so what.

HOWEVER, as soon as you involve children or, indeed, any non-consenting adults, that’s where it crosses a very clear line!

Yes… in private with only consenting adults!

Not involving children and non consenting adults. Ever.

Florrey · 10/05/2022 22:13

I agree. It’s fine to have a kink in private and with other consenting adults. But not in public and never involving children or non consenting adults. I’m seeing a lot of people publicly revealing their fetishes lately and I find it shocking that this is being accepted. It’s something that should remain private between consenting adults.

thirdfiddle · 11/05/2022 09:03

I have a suspicion that post was being racist. Suggestion being that as there have been white supremacist suicide bombers, people might start to see all white people as dangerous. So racist that we were supposed to assume that bit without it even being said, with plausible deniability.

Whereas actually it's more like being biased against people who make bombs for a hobby and join online we hate Islam groups to fantasise about blowing up mosques. Aka, not a bias, an entirely justifiable alarm.

If the person wore nappies in the privacy of his own bedroom, we'd have never heard of it. I'd still think it gross behaviour and insulting to people who actually need that care, but as I wouldn't know an individual was doing it it wouldn't matter to them.

IcakethereforeIam · 11/05/2022 09:13

I hope nappy guy is not taking his 'whole self' to work.

Did they really post (paraphrasing), one suicide bomber blows up a building and boom...? They're either an idiot or a comedy genius.

Deadringer · 11/05/2022 10:47

Well Spadonstrikesback you have changed my mind for one. This dad should be allowed to shit in his nappy around his children, it will help them to learn empathy for people who get their kicks this way, not damaging at all, and if it's upsetting for them they just need to suck it up, his feelings are more important after all. As for suicide bombers, well I never looked at them with sympathy before, but you know they are entitled to their radical hateful opinions, and if other people get hurt/killed well so be it. Thanks Spadon

ErrolTheDragon · 11/05/2022 11:18

ScreamingMeMe · 10/05/2022 15:26

Shitting yourself on purpose: it's just like going to a spa! Relaxing and detoxifying.

Colonic irrigation? ... I've never understood that, but if it helps someone, fine. But afaik no one ever takes their kids to watch.

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