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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Today's headlines: "NJ woman who forced daughter she fathered into child porn sentenced"

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PurgatoryOfPotholes · 06/05/2022 20:56

Headline
NJ woman who forced daughter she fathered into child porn sentenced to 25 years in prison

This is very graphic. This child was taken from her mother and tortured by the monster who was her father.

extract

SOMERVILLE – A transgender woman was sentenced Friday to 25 years in prison for forcing the 7-year-old daughter she fathered to participate in child pornography.

Marina Volz, 32, of Franklin, was sentenced, along with three others, by Superior Court Judge Peter Tober for their roles in running a child pornography production company in their Coburn Lane home in Franklin Township.

Also sentenced Friday were Ashley D. Romero, 28, formerly known as Adam Romero, Sean Allen, 54, and Dulcinea Gnecco, 21.

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Volz, Romero and Allen operated what they described as a “family-owned transgender pornography production studio specializing in amateur, BDSM and taboo fetish content” from the residence.

Romero and Allen jointly sexually assaulted the child and filmed the assault, the video of which was recovered from multiple electronic items within the home. The search of the electronic devices revealed multiple text messages and other electronic communications among Volz, Romero, Allen and third parties discussing the sexual assault of the child.

From Yahoo news

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NitroNine · 07/05/2022 04:50

The New York Post reported that Volz was “formerly known as Matthew” at the time of the arrest. They’ve not - yet - reported on the sentencing.

We shouldn’t have to chase round multiple media outlets for this information. And, as a PP noted, THESE ARE NOT OUR CRIMES.

TheWeeDonkey · 07/05/2022 06:11

How can the come to the conclusion that he is not a sexually violent predator when he abducted his own daughter and raped her for the entertainment of others?

The poor child, I hope she is getting the resources and support she needs to get her life back together.

Motorina · 07/05/2022 06:55

Thank God the word ‘fathered’ is still sex breed or the truth would have been entirely obscured.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 07/05/2022 08:21

"She has her head on the right way for redemption," he said. "There is hope for her

no there is no hope for him

i don’t really think there is any hope for the lawyer as well if he’s coming out with utter shite like that

just a horrific case, that poor little mite

Kanaloa · 07/05/2022 08:31

I hope the little girl goes to a new family where she can get a lot of help and recover from this. Although really there’s often no recovery. The victim always serves a life sentence.

I think it was a good choice to use ‘she fathered’ in the title. It would have been all too easy and much more clear to write ‘her daughter’ but by using such an awkward sentence it draws attention to the fact that this is a man committing a male crime who just likes to be called a woman.

Kanaloa · 07/05/2022 08:36

Oh, I see she’s gone to relatives/grandma. Well I hope they’re good people and are ready to care for her well.

PenguindreamsofDraco · 07/05/2022 09:08

I rather liked the headline, I imagined the writer as a GC journalists who has to say "woman" and "she" nonetheless determined to convey the reality.

Faffertea · 07/05/2022 09:08

That poor girl. It sounds as though she’s been adopted by her grandmother who from her statement has no difficulty saying what these men really are.

No doubt our usual monitors will be along to tell us how wrong we all are. Except they never do on these threads. Funny that.

FrancescaContini · 07/05/2022 09:10

It took me a while to get my head around the title,

I couldn’t read beyond the first paragraph as it’s so upsetting but…JFC. The poor child.

NitroNine · 07/05/2022 10:03

Faffertea · 07/05/2022 09:08

That poor girl. It sounds as though she’s been adopted by her grandmother who from her statement has no difficulty saying what these men really are.

No doubt our usual monitors will be along to tell us how wrong we all are. Except they never do on these threads. Funny that.

Well how could they possibly comment about something that can’t have happened because It. Never. Happens.?

Absolute wilful blinkered ignorance at all times: see nothing, say nothing!

GlasswareisOverated · 07/05/2022 10:17

As to where they get jailed is state dependent. Chris Chan is in a man's jail after raping his mother.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 07/05/2022 10:59

GlasswareisOverated · 07/05/2022 10:17

As to where they get jailed is state dependent. Chris Chan is in a man's jail after raping his mother.

Article says New Jersey, and we had a thread about their prison policy before. Two Incarcerated Women Pregnant By Trans Inmate

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TheBiologyStupid · 07/05/2022 12:12

OhLordyWhatNow · 06/05/2022 21:40

From those photos top left is obviously female, bottom right is a Bruce Springsteen tribute act, and the other two were blokes in a 1970's prog rock band?

Top left is the father, no?

happydappy2 · 07/05/2022 12:43

Horrific. What makes men behave in such a depraved way? The girl was only 7 years old...

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 07/05/2022 13:05

TheBiologyStupid · 07/05/2022 12:12

Top left is the father, no?

Yes. It's an exceedingly flattering photo, and I'm wondering where they got it from. Other photos of Volz do not look anything like that one.

Today's headlines: "NJ woman who forced daughter she fathered into child porn sentenced"
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PurgatoryOfPotholes · 07/05/2022 13:15

DontLikeCrumpets · 07/05/2022 04:42

@PurgatoryOfPotholes

The person identified as female looks the most male of them all.Check out the pics in the link below.I can't believe Dulcinea is female.

I wonder what the laws are.I'm not American so I don't know the whether those who have their gender change formalized are always referred to as women regardless of any crimes they commit.

www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/nj-four-adults-arrested-for-producing-child-porn-2019.448470/

I see what you mean. But it could be a poor photo. Journalists have gone to some effort to dig up previous names for Volz and Romero, so the absence of a previously-known-as for Gnecco implies female to me.
Also I'm reluctant to risk overcompensating for previous deceitful journalism by assuming all sex offenders are male. About 1% of sex offenders are female, and this situation could fit female pattern sexual offending: typically the accomplice to a male, often a much older one, but not the instigator.

Quote from article:

Gnecco received the lightest sentence because she was "the cook and bottle washer" in the home and cared for the girl, her lawyer Jack Venturi said. She pleaded guilty to counts of endangering the welfare of a child and admitted she filmed the girl while she was partially naked

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NotAGirl · 07/05/2022 17:30

They are depraved, that poor girl Sad

Thank goodness for headline writers revealing the truth #NotOurCrimes

I’m so fed up of news stories lying about sex and photoshopped pics to make them look less male’.

DomesticatedZombie · 07/05/2022 22:03

Sorry, I've avoided this thread, it's just beyond me to say anything on the matter, other than:

Not Our Crimes.

And Flowers to the poor girl, I hope she is able to rebuild her life. God damn it.

TheWeeDonkey · 08/05/2022 09:44

So I got into an argument about this on Reddit (I know, I know) and apparently the reason journalists should not refer to the criminal as male or transgender when reporting this story is because it makes transgender people look bad, which of course is the worst thing about the whole sickening event. NATALT if you were.

Yes, people were more upset about this person being described as their victim's father than what they did, but then my comments were deleted because they're not in the spirit FFS.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 08/05/2022 10:00

Yes, people were more upset about this person being described as their victim's father than what they did

nauseating

DogsAndGin · 08/05/2022 10:04

Is it just me, or are there a disproportionately high number of sexual crimes committed by trans people? Are there any stats on trans crimes?

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 08/05/2022 15:54

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 08/05/2022 10:00

Yes, people were more upset about this person being described as their victim's father than what they did

nauseating

There is an underlying belief there, on their part, that rape and sexual abuse is just something that happens, and the only thing that matters is how the rest of us respond to it, e.g. by signalling that our willingness to facilitate other people's identities is never conditional, and by committing to never disclose people's birthnames.

Well, bugger that. If it is truly so awful to be 'deadnamed', then I hope the prospect of it discourages potential rapists, who might otherwise commit atrocities as vile as those committed by Volz, formerly known as Matthew Volz, and Romero, formerly known as Adam Romero. Because the prospect of serving a prison sentence in a women's jail clearly isn't going to discourage rapists!

It is a lot of cognitive effort for us to remember other people's preferred pronouns when they don't accord with a lifetime of neurolinguistic programming. I think it's harder than learning to refer to all the Queen's sons as His Royal Highness at all times, and I note that no-one makes me do that. They especially don't make me do that for Prince Andrew! So why should we be accepting of this burden on us for these two males.

Yes, my willingness to facilitate your identity is conditional on you not raping adults, children or animals. If you can't handle hearing sex-based pronouns, don't rape anyone.

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Beefcurtains79 · 08/05/2022 16:09

Where are the usual TWAW posters? They are normally on here in a flash to downplay, what about, and hector.

NitroNine · 09/05/2022 09:21

@Beefcurtains79

I think it must be as I suggested above: they know that these things Never Happen; so how could they possibly discuss this thing that Never Happened?

WeBuiltCisCityOnSexistRoles · 09/05/2022 10:13

When talking about language not reflecting reality, I would also mention "child porn" here. This term is absolutely abhorrent to me and should also be named as what it is - child abuse.

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