Amber Heard - trial by social media

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I have to admit, I haven't been following this case, but what little I do know about it has been filtered through the prism of social media and I have noticed that Facebook seems to be serving me a LOT of pro-Johnny Depp stories. I've already seen a couple this week (from film-based sites that I do not follow, coming up as 'suggested for you') and have just had another.

I am not a huge film fan, so have never interacted with these film sites, but they are coming up in my feed regularly now, including one page (I just blocked it at the time as it was one of the first) that included a long rant about how 'If these accusations were made about a man, everyone would be crying abuse'.

As I say, I'm not really following the case, but I am finding it sinister how there seems to be a paid PR campaign to promote Johnny's innocence in the wider world, presumably paving the way for him to return to Hollywood relatively unscathed once the dust settles and the trial is over. Am I only just noticing this now or is this becoming a more common method of manipulating the public over relatively trivial (compared to elections, covid misinformation etc) matters?

And the 3 years of photos, recordings and stories being leaked and released about him being an abuser and her being a victim were not of his choosing.

news.sky.com/video/johnny-depp-v-amber-heard-heard-admits-hitting-johnny-depp-but-denies-punching-him-in-audio-played-to-court-12605790

m.youtube.com/watch?v=s0IMWYKqrQs

actual audio recordings do not tie up to the person she is portraying on the stand

People saying JD is blameless only have to watch the videos of him drunk and shouting and slamming cupboard doors in the kitchen; he is scary and irrespective of whether he actually hit and kicked her or not - this is abuse; there is literally a video of him doing this. Before I saw all the video evidence I felt inclined to believe JD, probably because the general consensus is that she is "unhinged" - but the more I see of him the more it is clear that he was an abusive alcoholic. I also think the fact that he had a relationship with somebody 25 years younger than himself is creepy; there was a huge power imbalance between them in terms of age and his status in Hollywood. I find him quite revolting now to be honest. I also do think that she is unbalanced too and the whole relationship was toxic but he's just coming across as an arsehole. I know he's an actor but he's so obviously acting in court and everyone on social media just fawns all over him 🤮

Johnny had substance abuse issues yes, but the Johnny you see in court is very much the Johnny he is off the stand. He is very soft spoken and shy most of the time. He is also wickedly funny. Clearly he is not blameless but he continues to be himself as those who know him can confirm.

Are you are personal friend Josette ?

he needs you around him and has for sometime as is surrounded by those on his payroll for far too long

if not you sound a bit deluded …

This is how he comes across and is spoken about by almost everyone who knows him or has met him.

His childhood trauma and addictions have left their mark.

I hope after this is all over, he can move on and have some peace in life.

My partner lives and works in LA as an actor.
I will say Johnny is very kind to everyone as far as we have seen. Perfect? No. Troubled but kind.

almost yes … and of course all those that work for you him

not hearing many speaking out now like in 2020 apart form those with a political agenda

his demons are his addictions not an ex partner, AD was probably one of them (addiction) for a while so much so he was willing to put her before his own child who was young at the time

would you do that ? Would you marry someone that your child wouldn’t talk to I wouldn’t but JD was under the witches spell what could the poor guy do (apart from stuff more coke up his nose and drink himself senseless which on all accounts he did)

what a lovely guy

Oh course …

I also think the fact that he had a relationship with somebody 25 years younger than himself is creepy;

I wouldn't call it creepy- it's tedious how often this happens but she was an adult

there was a huge power imbalance between them in terms of age and his status in Hollywood

This infantilisation is ridiculous. Heard was 29 when they married in 2015. Her own career started in 2003. She had been in around 30 films plus her television work. Yes, she's not as famous or successful as him but she wasn't a shy ingénue.

So far as this case- a sensible decision would be - "you both lose. Both of you are appalling people and neither of you have a reputation left to lose."

i didnt like it when he sat there in court like a naughty school boy doodling, smirking. his face never went up always down. he is 58.

near 60.

This is good
medium.com/@hannahxsummers/the-assassination-of-amber-heard-a2e861ad5ded

Why didn’t he leave?
he was rich, independent + had two kids to consider.
why did he not consider them?

because he was off his rocker on drugs and booze, poor soul.

he plays in that vampire band with Marilyn Manson, who also has not ever never had any allegations of abuse levelled at him. None, not even from women who were only 18 and he about 20 yrs older.

It was him that ended the relationship after the poo-bed incident.

he plays in that vampire band with Marilyn Manson, who also has not ever never had any allegations of abuse levelled at him. None, not even from women who were only 18 and he about 20 yrs older.

What are you talking about? I hope that's sarcasm

www.google.com/amp/s/www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/marilyn-manson-abuse-allegations-1256888/amp/

Whats even weirder and worse is that those were sent before they were even married. Depp subsequently tried to justify them as a quote from Monty Python

Having been a fan previously, I turned against him when I sae that text he sent to a friend - 'that slippery whore I donated my jizz to'- that is seething, repellent misogyny and even if he was drunk when writing it, one has to ask where that urge to sexually humiliatie her is coming from.
Plus, despite ample evidence of his appalling and scary behaviour when drunk or on drugs he continues to deny he was intoxicated, or minimises it (at one point claiming he has really high tolerance for alcohol and drugs- the recordings suggest this is wishful thinking)

@LetitiaLeghorn

There's no proof she pooed on his bed. He claims she did. She denies it. In fact the judge in the uk case ruled it was unlikely.

pagesix.com/2020/11/02/judge-rules-a-pet-likely-pooped-in-johnny-depps-bed-not-heard/amp/

“For what it is worth, I consider that it is unlikely that Ms. Heard or one of her friends was responsible,” the judge concluded of the poop, photos of which were shown in court as evidence.

Nicol noted that it happened when Depp was away, meaning “it was Ms. Heard who was likely to suffer from the feces on the bed, not him.”

“It was, therefore, a singularly ineffective means for Ms. Heard or one of her friends to ‘get back’ at Mr. Depp,” he wrote.”

@inkworks273
First of all I didn't say she did the poo. Johnny Depp believed she did the poo amd that's why he decided the marriage was done.

But I will say I own a small terrier that weighs 20lbs. His poo is quite small in diameter. I've owned bigger dogs and no way can he do poos as big as that. Teacup yorkies weigh 1 -3lbs. Their poo would be even smaller than my dog's. And that picture it did not look that small.

Later Heard joked about doing it as a practical joke. But I think that could be taken that she actually did the poo, or alternatively thar she put the poo in the bed. Either way it's dire mainly because she left it for someone else to clear up.

Depp and Heard had been together the night before the morning of the poo. Maybe she thought he'd come back. Or maybe she wanted the cleaner to think he did it. Who knows?

The judge believed when she said she gave the money to charity. The judge believed everything she said. 🤷

The bit about Marilyn Manson was sarcasm; rather a lot of his previous partners have come forward with abuse allegations.

I believe them.

Phew
All this reading about Depp has made me very confused about what some posters think is believable

@LetitiaLeghorn It was someone on JD’s payroll who said AH had called it a practical joke. Forgive me if I don’t take that as fact.

As for the charity money, there was a payment plan set up and some of the money was donated. Unfortunately she fell behind on the payments due to financial difficulties. She’s had to put all her money towards lawyers to defend herself against in this circus of a court case.

Most of the case is he said, she said. And yes he's surrounded by people who work for him so most testimony would come from them. There's no one else around. Her witnesses are her friends and people she pays. Do you not believe them either? It doesn't change the fact there was poo on the bed and it looked too big to come from a teacup yorkie. It doesn't change the fact that that's when he decided he was leaving the marriage - which I think answered the original point you made. That he should have left, not her. He did.

The payment schedule was set up initially by Depps, business manager, Edward White, who sent cheques on her behalf to the charities. If she'd allowed that to continue, the charities would have received the full amount. Heard decided to stop that schedule and have the money paid to herself. I understand she couldn't afford to give the money but then she should have made it clear that she couldn't keep her pledge rather than carrying on getting kudos for an action she'd not done and stiffing the charities. And on top of all that she went to court saying that that money had been given and the judge made some of his findings with that in mind. I don't know why you would defend her over that.