Student midwives at a Scottish university taught that men can give birth

[Clymene]

Look at this absolute nonsense:

According to the workbook, students were advised: “It is important to note that while most times the birthing person will have female genitalia, you may be caring for a pregnant or birthing person who is transitioning from male to female and may still have external male genitalia.”
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In a teaching workbook for midwifery students.

I just can't deal with so much stupid.

Unbelievably rare to the point I would bet my house has never happened in the UK. So is a hypothetical issue that no midwife needs to learn about. At all.

However, I think it would make sense to explain all this in a lesson/module on trans people giving birth. They are always biologically female, may present as NB or TM, and may have this that or the other genital arrangement. You do as a MW need to know what to expect and how the birth is going to be handled, even if it's rare and you might never see it. Actual inclusivity based on actual reality.

What you don't need is fake inclusivity that's built on falsehoods, i.e. that a male person with a prostate can give birth. How can they not see the difference? One actually helps trans people, one is all about parroting some lies with minimal understanding - and that's what seems to be happening all over the place. It's such a mess.

I agree. I think it's very much that the Skills Workbook was so wrong that we're effectively discussing very rare edge cases that would be the remit of a consultant like Susan Bewley rather than an undergraduate level midwife.

I didn't want to go into even rarer edge cases but, afaik, vaginectomy is even rarer than phalloplasty in the UK. I should think vaginectomy would always be part and parcel of the almost complete removal of the female reproductive system (but that not everyone who had the reproductive organs removed would also opt for a vaginectomy).

I'm familiar with some of the options in other healthcare systems but that is introducing a level of complexity that far exceeds the plausible goal of the undergraduate text which was so wrong it was fractally wrong about some topics for that chapter.

The last I heard there was no single doctor in the UK that performs phalloplasty.

It used to be St Peter's Andrology Centre but I gather that there hasn't been a contract since it was terminated in October 2020.