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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

EHRC to appear before the House of Commons Women and Equalities Committee 20 April

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ResisterRex · 19/04/2022 14:58

20 April at 3pm

committees.parliament.uk/committee/328/women-and-equalities-committee/news/165945/ehrc-to-appear-before-women-and-equalities-committee/

"The Equalities and Human Rights Commission is to appear before the House of Commons Women and Equalities Committee to discuss the EHRC's response to the Committee's December 2021 Report Reform of the Gender Recognition Actt_. The Committee will consider the EHRC's stance regarding the Government's 2018 consultation, more recent reforms in Scotland, and its approach to LGBTQ+ issues more widely.
The session will also scrutinise the EHRC's new three-year plan and its work following the Government’s Inclusive Britain report.
Witnesses
Wednesday 20 April
At 3pm
• Baroness Kishwer Falkner, Chairwoman, Equality and Human Rights Commission,
• Marcial Boo, Chief Executive, Equality and Human Rights Commission,
• Melanie Field, Chief Strategy and Policy Officer, Equality and Human Rights Commission."

Here's the EHRC's Strategic Plan:

www.equalityhumanrights.com/en/publication-download/strategic-plan-2022-2025

And this should be the right link:

www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/f71c8699-64f0-4d59-ade4-f79572c550b6

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SpinningMeSoftly · 20/04/2022 15:12

Thank you @OldCrone

DomesticatedZombie · 20/04/2022 15:22

A clearer definition of conversion therapy ... Okay.

They all seem a bit nervous.

DomesticatedZombie · 20/04/2022 15:30

WTF is Caroline Nokes' problem? She's like someone in a pub spoiling for a fight. Always squaring up to people and trying to trip them up ... it's really odd behaviour.

Letterasaurus · 20/04/2022 15:33

Why should the EHRC try to repair relationships with groups who just don't like the law as correctly stated?

DomesticatedZombie · 20/04/2022 15:34

Hm, their remit is to foster good relations between everyone, apparently. Not sure that's actually possible when we have people insisting that misogynist or homophobic principles must be upheld.

SpinningMeSoftly · 20/04/2022 15:34

DomesticatedZombie · 20/04/2022 15:30

WTF is Caroline Nokes' problem? She's like someone in a pub spoiling for a fight. Always squaring up to people and trying to trip them up ... it's really odd behaviour.

She's not very bright but has done very well considering, in politics. Her letter of No Confidence in Johnson is still 'live' and that's causing her issues with the whips' office I imagine.

She's a bit of an enigma wrapped up in a plank.

DomesticatedZombie · 20/04/2022 15:35

Fuck off Nokes. Cheeky mare.

Artichokeleaves · 20/04/2022 15:37

Trampling women's rights and removing their language and spaces and access is not fostering good relationships, is it? It's doing the opposite. Boundaries. Good fences make good neighbours.

tabbycatstripy · 20/04/2022 15:39

Caroline Nokes is for the blokes.

Kim Johnson likes to ask a question and then move on.

DomesticatedZombie · 20/04/2022 15:40

Is Kim Johnson the woman in the blue spotty shirt?

DomesticatedZombie · 20/04/2022 15:42

Whooop whoop it's JDP.

tabbycatstripy · 20/04/2022 15:42

Yes she is.

There’s something quite threatening about CN.

Cailleach1 · 20/04/2022 15:43

So, intersectionality always arrives back at T (well, LGBT, but we know they mean the T). What about belief and a woman who wants single sex facilities according to her belief. What about sex and disability?

DomesticatedZombie · 20/04/2022 15:46

What? What happened there?

tabbycatstripy · 20/04/2022 15:46

JDP takes no shit whatsoever.

Nokes is just RUDE. Like, needs reprimanding rude.

ResisterRex · 20/04/2022 15:46

I had to rewind. I could not understand Bell Ribeiro-Addy's questions. Something about what if the law doesn't comply with the law? Falkner said she couldn't answer about law in the abstract but only about the equality act. Very confusing.

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DomesticatedZombie · 20/04/2022 15:47

tabbycatstripy · 20/04/2022 15:46

JDP takes no shit whatsoever.

Nokes is just RUDE. Like, needs reprimanding rude.

100%. I think it's appalling and I don't know how she gets away with it. It's verging on bullying.

Lovelyricepudding · 20/04/2022 15:49

tabbycatstripy · 20/04/2022 15:46

JDP takes no shit whatsoever.

Nokes is just RUDE. Like, needs reprimanding rude.

Not able to watch but could she be reported for breach of standards?

Cailleach1 · 20/04/2022 15:50

Good for JDP to point out that LG is not the same as T. They are two different protected characteristics in the Equality Act, aren't they? You have to address them differently as sexual orientation and as gender reassignment.

GibbonsGoatsGibbons · 20/04/2022 15:51

Ooh I liked the incredibly polite way the Baroness said that Stonewall needed to stop throwing their toys out of the pram Grin

Marcial Boo was good at pointing them back to 9 PCs when they just want to fight about the usual one.

CN is extraordinarily combative "shall we wait for the transcript" 🤬

GibbonsGoatsGibbons · 20/04/2022 15:53

What was the nit picking about whether ScotGov had decided on 16 or 18 (16 because they're fucking idiots) - it's hardly the EHRC's fault.

Pluvia · 20/04/2022 15:58

EHRC has not been given a budget for the current year — two weeks into the financial year. Baroness Falkner saying this is an existential issue. Last year didn't even have the baseline that has been agreed is necessary to do the work required by statute. Even Nokes seem to be astonished by this.

Cailleach1 · 20/04/2022 15:58

I'm laughing at the thought of the person who stated at the Northern Ireland Select Affairs Committee that she was probably giving birth at the time as an excuse for not (ever!) having read the Good Friday Agreement. Nigh on 20 years before she was asked this question. This is the person who is getting out the magnifying glass for one or two incorrect terms words being used by mistake by the main speaker at today's event.

CN very hostile today. Looks more petulant though as she is such a lightweight.

DomesticatedZombie · 20/04/2022 16:00

I feel for the three EHRC reps there, it feels like they've been thrown into the lion's den. And they're trying to act like normally reasonable adults and have a conversation but they've got Caroline Nokes shouting at them and interrupting and accusing them every ten seconds.

DomesticatedZombie · 20/04/2022 16:01

3,2,1 .. .and we're back in the room

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