The Family Sex Show to continue, despite widespread outrage

[MatthewJTaylor]

The twitter account for the theatre group behind the Family Sex Show (@ThisEgg_) has revealed that there are performances planned of the Family Sex Show despite the cancellation of the national tour and they are looking for more venues to take them on.
It seems that the Bath performance(s) is/are running.

I agree with Artichoke and all the others about the lack of due diligence into those adults preparing (and sometimes delivering) SRE materials for schools
We've had the Warwickshire scandal with age inappropriate porn soaked materials were provided by the council who doubled down protesting when they were initially exposed: safeschoolsallianceuk.net/2019/09/28/how-a-sadistic-industry-is-being-sanitised-morning-star/
There's Tatchell with his stated approval of children having sex with adults running an organisation for schools:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3582509-Stephen-Fry-backs-P-Tatchells-call-to-revise-sex-education
The Proud Trust's have their celebrated male focussed Dice Game:
www.transgendertrend.com/proud-trust-nothing-proud/

What's interesting is that it's only the local authority who withdrew their guidelines. The grifters have all continued seemingly unchallenged by safeguarding authorities despite evidence of age inappropriate porn soaked materials aimed at children.

In my opinion the whole thing has been carefully calculated to be exactly what g-words would benefit from. It's not a coincidence.

Literally the only aspect that suggests to me it's accident/naivety rather than intentionally sinister is that they are so upfront and obvious about the worst (? perhaps they aren't) aspects - nudity, age range so low as 5, the total focus on 'pleasure', and that they didn't have a response to the entirely predictable public response other than 'YoUr All HoMoPhObEs'

Basically I’m wondering whether there are quite a few people in this field who don’t understand safeguarding as they ought to, potentially enabling those with a nefarious agenda to operate in plain sight.

I'm quite shocked by how poor the understanding of safeguarding seems to be. My only professional experience would have been safeguarding training for vulnerable adults. I have no experience or training in child safeguarding, my education on that came from MN and a much missed poster, and yet it it was immediately obvious to me what the problems were. It's very concerning that people who should know, don't know. On the first thread in AIBU there were teachers who thought TFSS was a great idea.

@Omemiserum

Any of you old enough to remember the 'paedophile information exchange', supported for a while by labour ministers such as Patricia Hewitt and Harriet Harman. All that needs for this rubbish to flourish is for decent people to say nothing.

There are links about it on the other thread. PIE in the Home Office. The cause of PIE was affiliated with NCCL and Liberty with the assistance of Harriet Harman, Patricia Hewitt and Jack Dromey. Hewitt later admitted she was wrong and apologised, Harman may not have done.

www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/pie-controversy-harriet-harman-has-got-this-one-wrong-9162728.html

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3492953-Michael-Biggs-on-Academic-Freedom

Hein, Dunn, Hopkins et al with some familiar political names:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3755189-PIE-again

Copying this over from the other thread about TFSS. The UK weren't the only country which was home to a movement intent on normalising adult/child sexual relationships. Like PIE some of the people involved (directly in at least one case) remain active in politics to this day.

www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/the-sexual-revolution-and-children-how-the-left-took-things-too-far-a-702679.html

I spent time on that site. It's oddly male-centered in its flavour. There seem to be no boundaries and nothing is age-inappropriate.

And it does the usual erasure of names for the female sex while keeping the old names for the male sex.

@SmallSoupcon

In plain sight. And people ask how the Jimmy Savile thing happened. Like this. It happened like this. They are telling us exactly who they are, just like he did.

I was thinking the exact same thing.

Well. I did as the Family Sex Show suggested and carried out an internet search for 'animals that masturbate.

Reader: Don't.

@FOJN

Basically I’m wondering whether there are quite a few people in this field who don’t understand safeguarding as they ought to, potentially enabling those with a nefarious agenda to operate in plain sight.

I'm quite shocked by how poor the understanding of safeguarding seems to be. My only professional experience would have been safeguarding training for vulnerable adults. I have no experience or training in child safeguarding, my education on that came from MN and a much missed poster, and yet it it was immediately obvious to me what the problems were. It's very concerning that people who should know, don't know. On the first thread in AIBU there were teachers who thought TFSS was a great idea.

I doubt very much that any real teacher would think that “ show “ was appropriate for children. It’s very possible that some people on Mumsnet are not what they say they are.

‘I doubt very much that any real teacher would think that “ show “ was appropriate for children. It’s very possible that some people on Mumsnet are not what they say they are.’

I think nearly all teachers would think it was outrageous and a serious concern. But (like all professions) teaching has been infiltrated (it feels embarrassing even writing that word - makes me sound very paranoid - but it’s the only accurate way to describe it) by ideologists who think their purpose in education is to liberate the poor children from the shackles of a queer-hating establishment.

I've reported to CEOP as well, although I suspect they won't engage with it as it is geared towards targeted abuse to named individuals.

@AuntyFungal

It’s times like this, that I wish certain banned posters with particular specialisms in , oh I don’t know, say safeguarding, could be reinstated.

Especially when you consider what they were banned for & how the specifics of the ban could be challenged if it were in other settings ie work…

Yes! Maybe, in all the shouting and hollering, there was a very distressed and angry woman who saw what was likely to happen and tried to alert us all and some other people who heard the volume and not the message. She probably did end up being rude, I didn't blame her then and certainly don't now.

But we do miss her! Her input on this would have been utterly invaluable!

Invited audience = woke families and Jimmy Savile conventioneers.

@Omemiserum

Any of you old enough to remember the 'paedophile information exchange', supported for a while by labour ministers such as Patricia Hewitt and Harriet Harman. All that needs for this rubbish to flourish is for decent people to say nothing.

Yes I just about remember the furore. And at least we are doing something. I'm seeing a lot of Mary Whitehouse coming out in me. I'm absolutely pissed off though that yet again all my energies (and often money) is being taken up by what I thought was done and dusted. Obviously excepting things we dont know yet but will learn. I could be doing much more with my time and money, more useful things, but here we all are fighting with emails and court cases, simply to have what is a right. Mind blowing stuff.

I'm seeing a lot of Mary Whitehouse coming out in me.

Mary Whitehouse was astute enough to have identified the embedding of PIE within the Home Office. She contributed to the passing of the Protection of Children Act 1978.

Odd how it was politically expedient to ridicule her and deride the whole of her work as a pearl clutcher.

whatcanidoaboutit.wordpress.com/2013/01/22/mary-whitehouse-versus-pie-the-home-office-1978/

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4497416-Mary-Whitehouse-a-reappraisal

As you indicate, history as validated a number of her concerns so it's disappointing that her social biography is such that she's seen as a figure of ridicule.

Oh look, a biased report...
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-61149449

[quote Lovelyricepudding]Oh look, a biased report...
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-61149449[/quote]
What a surprise. I'm so glad I no longer pay my licence fee. You don't have to unless you watch live tv or BBC.

I find paid subscription services more than make up for the Savile-loving BBC. Women and kids will never be their priority- look how they silenced people speaking up about Savile for years and years.

One key aspect of their response is that within safeguarding, as soon as anyone points out an issue, point of view, consideration, you take the worst case scenario.

Wilful ignoring of raised points shows a narcissistic attitude which to me waves a ton of 🚩

No response to any of the issues, such as how children who've been abused would interpret the content or that the content is how abusers operate.

Obvs DARVO too.

Why are there never receipts for the violent threats. The tweets the BBC chose to show were from people expressing relief that a show, which was so unsuitable for children, had been cancelled.

They don't understand children, child development, or child sexual development.

The people I've met who spout this rubbish are very privileged people who've never experienced or worked in professions where they'd have to learn about the devastating impact of csa and how abusers groom.

The ones I'm thinking of live around Bristol too.

@EmbarrassingHadrosaurus

I'm seeing a lot of Mary Whitehouse coming out in me.

Mary Whitehouse was astute enough to have identified the embedding of PIE within the Home Office. She contributed to the passing of the Protection of Children Act 1978.

Odd how it was politically expedient to ridicule her and deride the whole of her work as a pearl clutcher.

whatcanidoaboutit.wordpress.com/2013/01/22/mary-whitehouse-versus-pie-the-home-office-1978/

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4497416-Mary-Whitehouse-a-reappraisal

As you indicate, history as validated a number of her concerns so it's disappointing that her social biography is such that she's seen as a figure of ridicule.

This theatre company are clearly using the whole things as spin in order to feed off the notoriety and promote themselves.

My memory of MW growing up was that she's was a sad conservative woman - that's what media spin told me. And the "Mary Whitehouse experience." I never realised some of the key important things she achieved.

All the complaints are being spun as exactly the same, we are sad conservative women.

I doubt very much that any real teacher would think that “ show “ was appropriate for children.
It’s very possible that some people on Mumsnet are not what they say they are.

I agree lots of people post lies on MN but the two posters I'm thinking of were quite convincing. Once upon a time I'd have been very quick to call bullshit but the thread posted by a paediatrician today demonstrates there are many otherwise intelligent, well educated people buying into queer theory that the job they do no longer surprises me.

I refuse to be one of the "good people doing nothing" in this situation. CEOP have not come back to me even with an acknowledgement email. I may also report to local police wherever this company is registered.

Guardian taking the same line as the BBC:

https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2022/apr/19/sex-education-theatre-show-children-cancelled-violent-threats?CMP=ShareiOSAppp_Other