NCS will put my child into a "self-identified gendered accommodation"

[Unwantedgift]

Hi. First time posting here but I've got two children who have introduced me to the world of gender ideology. DD desisted, DS going through it right now. Wondering what I can say to the NCS safeguarding lead about the above.

Background is that DS is going this summer to a 2w course, the first of which is residential, and I know he's applied as "female gender" (self-diagnosed as GD and not on any medication). I raised concerns about the dorm arrangement in the NCS parent survey. The service provider called me and said:

"In line with government guidelines, we will allow the young people to self-ID and they will be put into whichever dorm they feel comfortable in. They'll be supervised at all times".

When I questioned whether they didn't have any safeguarding concerns about this, they said they'll get the NCS safeguarding lead to call me.

I'll ask for their risk assessment, and have studied the Equality Act... but has anyone else dealt with NCS on this issue before? How can they possibly think it's OK to let an entirely biological 16YO boy be in a girls dorm?

So basically self ID (which is a protected characteristic) trumps sex which is a protected characteristic. A policy which falls short of legislation

Rather

So basically self ID (which NOT is a protected characteristic) trumps sex which is a protected characteristic. A policy which falls short of legislation

It sounds like they are discriminating by sex. Gender reassignment does not trump the proportionate and legitimate need for safety, privacy and dignity of girls/women.

I would escalate it and ask to see the materials they used and provider they used to suggest that those with the characteristic of gender reassignment can do what the hell they like!

As others have said contact SexMatters and others.

Have you seen the new post today in AIBU
abbout Girl Guides and Brownies? It is about Katie Alcocks’s case. She says it is now clear girls are allowed same SEX accommodation. (No trans girl in the dorm)

So the girls 'just need to be educated about respecting other people's identity' while your ds won't be put with boys 'in case the boys bully him'.

So another case of #bekind, girls! Ridiculous double standards.

Sorry I think I was confused. Ignore that .

Having read the article it may be that girl guides and brownies still do include trans girls even in female spaces like dorms and changing rooms. I am truly muddled.

Hot off the presses - relates to schools bit may have relevant stuff: sex-matters.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/Sex-Matters-and-Transgender-Trend-schools-guidance.pdf

It's flat out male supremacism.

Boys' voices, feelings, needs, experiences matter.

Girls? No. Any feelings, experiences, needs? Sod that, educate them out of it - where 'educate' means 'train them to put their needs aside and meet the needs of male people'. Those who won't or can't, get excluded.

And at the same time you're supposed to maintain that no one knows what sex anyone is, and sex isn't binary. Ha bloody ha.

Looks like this has hit the Telegraph, haven't read the article as its behind a paywall.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/05/02/boys-identifying-girls-put-female-dorms-summer-camp-set-david/

Would be interesting to see if snythi
g comes of this.

The Article has been archived if you visit archive . ph.

If you open the article in a private browsing page, you'll bypass the firewall and will be able to access it.

Times too.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trans-teenagers-sleep-girls-dorm-david-cameron-big-society-summer-camp-mb8x26725?shareToken=805956884dc2bcc0ace709ee65238726

All that guff from Mark Gifford about never putting a young person at risk blah blah. Are they even asking girls how they feel about sharing with boys? Are their staff sufficiently skilled to see through the female socialisation that will make most girls say 'no, it's fine. Really'?

We shouldn't be asking teenagers to do their own safeguarding, that's the adults' job.

By that age the girls have been fed #BeKind for years at school and online so will likely prioritise the boys. There's also the weight of conformity. What if no one else spoke up, would you?

I expect this org (like many) is full if people who haven't thought any of this through, but who have been stonewalled. This really pisses me off especially as it's publicly funded.

There is absolutely no way at that age that I would have had the confidence to speak up against the presented norm.

@Unwantedgift I hope you and your family are ok.

And thank you.

@ChopinBoard I'm saving We shouldn't be asking teenagers to do their own safeguarding, that's the adults' job. in Mind Palace for future reference. 👍

Thank you it’s very kind of you to ask. I’m ok.

Chilling effect on girls.

"Never putting a young person at risk" in fact means "Never putting a young male born person with a trans identity at risk", or "never putting a young female born person at risk unless that means upsetting or saying no to a male born person with a trans identity in which case crack on with the risk or loudly insist it doesn't exist" because we all know this agenda has no fucks to give about a biological female unless they have identified themselves out of girlhood.

I would not now let any kid of mine go on overnights. No trust left. It's gone. No problem with kids identifying as trans - HUGE fucking great problems with adults supposedly trained in safeguarding identifying as managing risks.