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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

even by Crispin's standards...

163 replies

SigourneyHoward · 11/04/2022 21:13

Extremely vocal intervention by CB following a jury finding his fellow Conservative Wakefield MP guilty of sexual assault....

twitter.com/CrispinBlunt/status/1513603624164859918

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Butfirstcoffees · 11/04/2022 21:55

Hang on. Crispin is quite OK with IAK talking to a 15 year old about porn and what type of porn the child might like?

Butfirstcoffees · 11/04/2022 21:59

@Butfirstcoffees

Hang on. Crispin is quite OK with IAK talking to a 15 year old about porn and what type of porn the child might like?
Sorry wasnt quite clear IAK admits he discussed porn with a 15 year old. So CB can't not believe that bit and is OK with it?
tabbycatstripy · 11/04/2022 22:05

That ratio is hairy.

However, I would like to hear more. What does Blunt think makes this a miscarriage of justice?

My understanding is that the assault happened when the boy was given alcohol (why?) and then he was dragged upstairs (why?) and he laid down in a bunk. And then (according to testimony and now according to the jury) Khan touched him.

tabbycatstripy · 11/04/2022 22:10

And the porn: why?

SwissBall · 11/04/2022 22:14

Not the main point but I find his “statements” so pompous. Why can’t he tweet them like everyone else? He’s not the PM.

Also, horrific behaviour, as per.

PronounssheRa · 11/04/2022 22:15

However, I would like to hear more. What does Blunt think makes this a miscarriage of justice?

I can only think of 2 points. Either he doesn't believe the victim (despite not being in court for any of the victims evidence twitter.com/harry_horton/status/1513623057771937799), or he accepts what happened but he doesn't believe it is or should be against the law.

So yes I think blunt really needs to clarify.

tabbycatstripy · 11/04/2022 22:16

He does.

DomesticatedZombie · 11/04/2022 22:19

@tabbycatstripy

That ratio is hairy.

However, I would like to hear more. What does Blunt think makes this a miscarriage of justice?

My understanding is that the assault happened when the boy was given alcohol (why?) and then he was dragged upstairs (why?) and he laid down in a bunk. And then (according to testimony and now according to the jury) Khan touched him.

That ITV article above has more detail.
nauticant · 11/04/2022 22:22

Interesting:

twitter.com/RhonddaBryant/status/1513627391813468160

Organictangerine · 11/04/2022 22:25

@Butfirstcoffees

Hang on. Crispin is quite OK with IAK talking to a 15 year old about porn and what type of porn the child might like?
Of course he is. He also supports male sex offenders being given easier access to victims by being placed in women’s prisons. So is it really surprising?
PronounssheRa · 11/04/2022 22:27

[quote nauticant]Interesting:

twitter.com/RhonddaBryant/status/1513627391813468160[/quote]
That's the 2nd resignation from the APPG

twitter.com/StewartMcDonald/status/1513627626082078720

Helleofabore · 11/04/2022 22:28

[quote nauticant]Interesting:

twitter.com/RhonddaBryant/status/1513627391813468160[/quote]
Wow. That is a very interesting development. Some very clear headed thinking there.

Live4weekend · 11/04/2022 22:32

I suspect on BBC news tomorrow morning we will hear he had had the whip withdrawn.

It's a shocking tweet and I can't understand what he thought it would achieve.

MMBaranova · 11/04/2022 22:32

Overdoing the poppers.

tabbycatstripy · 11/04/2022 22:32

Blunt’s statements risk conflating LBG with being a child molester, suggesting that Khan was convicted because he was gay rather then because he assaulted a child.

Olderbadger1 · 11/04/2022 22:34

Two is a good start... Will courage call to courage among the chaps I wonder?

Butfirstcoffees · 11/04/2022 22:38

@Organictangerine that he thinks it isnt surprising. That he is so blatant about being ok with child abuse, does surprise me.

There loads of people that think women's rights and abuse of women doesn't matter. That's not rare, sadly. He has plenty if support on that.

Its very rare to find alot of support for someone who believes child abuse is fine.

dropthevipers · 11/04/2022 22:39

I really dont understand why he has done this. If a dreadful miscarriage of justice has taken place, then lets see the proof. Oh, there is none. Right. In which case the only other reason must be that gay peadophiles must not be prosecuted otherwise we will think they are terrible people. Well, er, we do. Duh! The man is more deranged than I thought.Which is saying something.

JoanOgden · 11/04/2022 22:43

Juries don't convict easily when it's one party's word against the other. I can only assume that they found the victim's evidence compelling. Shame on Crispin for casting doubt on their verdict.

PronounssheRa · 11/04/2022 22:44

Joanna Cherry has also resigned from the APPG

backtobusy · 11/04/2022 22:49

This seems particularly deranged even by his standards.

People who are Muslim and gay should be allowed to sexually assault children?
That is quite the take for Crispin to have.

Also about as unhelpful for either minority group as you could get.

PermanentTemporary · 11/04/2022 22:55

Maybe he means he knows lots of straight Christian MPs who've done worse things and nobody is interested? That's certainly possible but not really an argument for not prosecuting sexual assault.

zanahoria · 11/04/2022 22:55

Ahmad Khan, MP for Wakefield since December 2019. His conviction today is nothing short of an international scandal, with dreadful wider implications for millions of LGBT+ muslims around the world

Considering many will live in countries where homosexuality is a crime, I doubt they will be that bothered by a case in a nation where homosexuality is not illegal and the man was given a fair trial.

mirax · 11/04/2022 22:55

Outrageous sense of entitlement creates Blunt's downfall. Is there any feasible way he can come back from this car crash? Perhaps one that will win him applause and cries of "stunning and brave!"?