Starmer: biology matters

[tabbycatstripy]

“Biology matters, and for the vast majority of women that’s what matters. Nobody is quarrelling with that. But there’s no denying there are also a small number of people who struggle with their gender identity, and they go through a difficult time...”

Went on to say that three times. Almost exactly what Rachel Reeves said: “the vast majority of women” - in other words, there are women who are not female.

Robotic performance aside, it’s at least better.

Some people don't like their sexed body. And? Why the fuck should that matter in relation to women being adult females in reality and law?

WHY do we have to pretend some men are included in our sex class in order for them to feel better about their chosen 'gender identity'

If an identity needs constant external validation and affirmation it's because the person knows it's false.

I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him. He's only changing tack because its coming up to election time, then he will weasel his way back to how he has been. He's slimy.

We shouldn’t have to pretend. I’m happy to respect the presentation of reasonable people, but that isn’t the same as pretending.

Starmer has some serious questions to answer and the sound bite isn’t going to do it.

Well it's only just over a month until the local elections, and the Labour party must realise that their stance is going down like a lead balloon.

‘Nobody is quarrelling with that’ really Keir? Have you run that past LOJ? Or the people from Stonewall who (channeling Professor Umbrage) reclassify lesbians’ sexuality as ‘genital preferences’?

But yes, perhaps Labour finally are doing that seemingly impossible thing and actually listening to women. I look forward to seeing if they can find their way back to balancing rights in a way that doesn’t cause quite so much blimmin’ confusion and carnage.

Clearly people are ‘quarrelling with that’ because he’s already being called a transphobe.

So do I now have KS's permission to point out only women have a cervix? Still as clear as mud.

Too little, too late. Piss of Keir, you're an absolute fool.

Thanks for posting. Where did he say this?

It just seems to be repackaged bumpf

@Whatsnewpussyhat

Some people don't like their sexed body. And? Why the fuck should that matter in relation to women being adult females in reality and law?

WHY do we have to pretend some men are included in our sex class in order for them to feel better about their chosen 'gender identity'

If an identity needs constant external validation and affirmation it's because the person knows it's false.

Tell me, why should anyone's "sexed body" matter in social context?

Because you want to maintain womanhood as some sort of exclusive club? Because including people you don't like "devalues" it? Gee, where did I hear that kind of rhetoric before.

“If an identity needs constant external validation and affirmation it's because the person knows it's false.”

Right, sure. Like how it was oh so wrong it was for gay people to demand "external validation and affirmation" of gay marriage. 🙄

Twitter/ITV News Politics about 4/5 hours ago.

It is an exclusive club.

‘Because you want to maintain womanhood as some sort of exclusive club?’

It is an exclusive club. Expanding definitions to include the opposite of the concept renders language meaningless.

“Expanding definitions to include the opposite of the concept renders language meaningless.”

Like how marriage is defined as a union between a man and a woman, amirite?

@Pixiedust1234

I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him. He's only changing tack because its coming up to election time, then he will weasel his way back to how he has been. He's slimy.

I would trust Boris and the Tories even less. They subject women and children to genuine suffering through creating a state of grinding inequality.

‘Like how marriage is defined as a union between a man and a woman, amirite?’

The opposite of married is unmarried.

He’s only saying this now because he’s been caught on the hop by other MPs deciding to be grown ups. I’m not going to be forgetting his enthusiasm fo sell women and girls down the river to avoid getting called nasty names on Twitter. The absolute melt.

@Cayeli

“Expanding definitions to include the opposite of the concept renders language meaningless.”

Like how marriage is defined as a union between a man and a woman, amirite?

Marriage is a social convention.

The two sexes of men and women still exist whether social convention chooses to acknowledge that or not, and there is precisely nothing you can do about that.

@Joystir59 - I don't really trust any of them but at least Boris knows what an adult female is. I don't want men gaslighting me that they are really women. #nothankyou

No thank-you Keir.

The two sexes of men and women still exist whether social convention chooses to acknowledge that or not, and there is precisely nothing you can do about that

Thank you. It's absurd anyone will try to argue this point.

“Marriage is a social convention.”

As is the notion of womanhood or manhood.

“The two sexes of men and women still exist whether social convention chooses to acknowledge that or not”

Even if, so? Why does "biological reality" need social and legal enforcement? If you truly believe biological reality to be immutable, why not just let it be?

Are you planning to enforce the laws of gravity next? Pass laws to prohibit humans from levitating, just in case someone does?

‘Are you planning to enforce the laws of gravity next? Pass laws to prohibit humans from levitating, just in case someone does?’

Nobody is trying to pass laws to prevent people literally changing their sex. That can’t happen. No law is needed to prevent it.

Honestly, it sounds as though you're not saying "You can't change sex" as a statement of fact, but more as a prohibition.