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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Another man taking a woman's place.....

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SunniDelite · 16/03/2022 10:38

twitter.com/PoetintheCityUK/status/1503784417998917634/photo/1
They've got us down, now they're poking us with sticks.... :(

Another man taking a woman's place.....
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IamAporcupine · 17/03/2022 15:48

@Gumbomambo

It’s just ridiculous how can anyone think this is ok?
I came to post the same Shock
SunniDelite · 17/03/2022 17:41

I was looking into this "Festival" again, and all photographs of this bod seem to have been disappeared somehow, and proper women are now showing up. However, I looked at the Facebook page of some "feminists" called Women Reclaim, and one of their posts was this one. So disappointing. I would like to ask them, at what point can a man turn into a woman? Years, months,weeks,days,overnight? In the blink of an eye? It makes a nonsense of their "feminism". I'd also like to send them the screenshots of this lovely person and their opinion of women, (but I don't want to expose myself!) I self ID as a coward :)

Another man taking a woman's place.....
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IcakethereforeIam · 17/03/2022 17:56

They spelled harassed wrong Confused

Deliriumoftheendless · 17/03/2022 19:05

@IcakethereforeIam

Feck, rash, bloody autocorrect! By all means do Rush. Rush were awesome.
Rush are amazing!

(Insert Beavis and Butthead gif here)

Yesterdaysleftovers · 17/03/2022 20:41

I have put in an FOI request asking about the process by which this person was engaged. Legally, they have to provide a response, so we will see what they say. There is also a well-defined appeals process, should they try to wibble their way out of it…..

Palmfrond · 17/03/2022 21:16

@Yesterdaysleftovers

I have put in an FOI request asking about the process by which this person was engaged. Legally, they have to provide a response, so we will see what they say. There is also a well-defined appeals process, should they try to wibble their way out of it…..
*Slow clap emoji here
Helleofabore · 17/03/2022 22:54

Can I just add ‘Esme Houston’ in too?

Scottish young greens posted them as part of International women’s celebration. So a young female has now missed out being recognised for their efforts.

twitter.com/scotyounggreens/status/1504389659664826379?s=21

machamac · 18/03/2022 00:03

This lot have promoted 2 trans people to one woman so far this month for International Women's Month.
twitter.com/scotyounggreens/status/1504389659664826379?s=21

FlibbertyGiblets · 18/03/2022 00:08

I laughed at "herr ". I am an awful person. titters behind hand

IcakethereforeIam · 18/03/2022 00:39

I could almost feel sorry for Esme, 'madam's apple'!Grin

Helleofabore · 18/03/2022 06:00

Well. USA Today has named Rachel Levine as one of there exceptional women of the year. So …. There is another place a woman won’t have.

VelvetChairGirl · 18/03/2022 07:24

@nepeta

This whole trend (gender ideology taking over) has been so enlightening about the general expectations on how bog-standard women should behave.

We should prioritise everyone else's concerns, and that is the expected behaviour. So trans women, trans men, and nonbinary people (read: fully human people as compared to two-dimensional sexist stereotypes) should all get precedence and their concerns validated first, even if that means erasing our embodied identities entirely, stripping us from all female role models, and re-framing our lot as the only truly privileged one.

The sad thing is that this is working, partly, because it IS expected, so anyone protesting it is called terrible names and threatened.

thats not true think about it, its the othering again. when do they ever talk about trans men? they dont, and the NBs get less of a mention.

Trans men are only in the news when they have babies, its the fetishism again because the ultimate aim of the trans woman is prove they are women by having children (no matter how many drugs and implanted organs from dead females are required to do so) so they can finally overcome the biggest barrier to colonization.

NBs hardly ever get a look in except as lackies to shout the mantra, if you look back to the olympics when a NB got a medel in womens football, the majority of the press were far more interested in Hubbard's failure, overwhelmingly so.

this is about men, its a big old can of worms that has revealed how misogynistic western society really is, as simone de beauvoir said "humanity is male and man defines woman not in herself, but as relative to him, she is not regarded as an autonomous being, he is the subject , he is the absolute, she is the other".

The trans gender movement is proof of that, the pecking order is
1 is the man preferably white and able bodied.
2 is the trans woman.
3 is the NB as many of them are male.
4 is the trans man at least they are trying.
5 is the woman, bottom of the pile still the other.

SamphiretheStickerist · 18/03/2022 09:03

Autumn Sandeen? The American serviceman who was the first "woman" whatever whatever?

No thank you!

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 18/03/2022 11:19

Esme Houston looks exactly like half my class in the 80s.

That's not a trans woman, that's a goth.

Oblomov22 · 18/03/2022 11:38

Lord save us from this shit.

myfanwybygaslight · 18/03/2022 12:45

My local library is organising an International Women's Day event and the top billed guest poet is a trans identified man. It's a fucking disgrace.

Another man taking a woman's place.....
IcakethereforeIam · 18/03/2022 13:04

Is it Thea? Is she a samuri or did she not get on the hormones in time to stop the male pattern baldness. Read her poem Solidarity, she does like her stereotypes.

myfanwybygaslight · 18/03/2022 13:09

@IcakethereforeIam Theo until very recently. Only in his early 20s.

viques · 18/03/2022 16:31

@vivariumvivariumsvivaria

Esme Houston looks exactly like half my class in the 80s.

That's not a trans woman, that's a goth.

What a lot of unnecessary pronouns Esme uses. Just stick to a couple dear, it’s honestly all you need.
IcakethereforeIam · 18/03/2022 16:45

Pardon my pronouns, I was hedging my bets in case it wasn't Thea! This probably deserves its own thread.

cataline · 18/03/2022 23:05

They've cancelled the event and put it online due to 'safety concerns'

https://www.poetinthecity.co.uk/news/statement-herstory?fbclid=IwAR2ESFP4v3DJQEBHwwSSP19ODpJtgilr3jbLX-gcnvYz5FRY8JjM3qPxk

Janesmom · 18/03/2022 23:08

Surely the organisers can invite anyone they want to speak. Their event; their prerogative.

If people don’t like it (i) don’t go, or (ii) organise your own event. Then you’re guaranteed to be catered for!

ErrolTheDragon · 18/03/2022 23:17

Surely the organisers can invite anyone they want to speak. Their event; their prerogative.

Sure they can, if they want to make a compete mockery of the concept of 'herstory'. They can't do it and not expect to be criticised roundly for doing so.

Helleofabore · 19/03/2022 05:49

@Janesmom

Surely the organisers can invite anyone they want to speak. Their event; their prerogative.

If people don’t like it (i) don’t go, or (ii) organise your own event. Then you’re guaranteed to be catered for!

Great.

Don’t call it a celebration of ‘women’s’ achievement though. Call it a celebration of ‘whatever mixed sex / special group’ you want. But don’t include people who are male in female events. Unless it is in a special category.

How is it fair and celebrating women’s achievements when still today from birth, girls experience sexist discrimination and a male is included in that celebration? One who has not overcome the issues that the women have had to? Sure, they have overcome their own issues, but sexist discrimination from birth is not one of them.

And if you are not celebrating the overcoming of sexist discrimination, why have a sex segregated event at all?

Same with recognising LGBT or any other segregated category event. If you are not recognising that person’s achievement of overcoming discrimination for that protected characteristic why have that public event?

Totally different if it was celebrating the achievement of a private group. But this was a public event supposedly celebrating female achievement.

Obviously, some people will try to equate the issues that a transitioned male has had to overcome vs that of a female. But it is foolish to do so, it is a false equivalence.

And any person who thinks girls today experience no sexist discrimination (including that from their own peers), either don’t have young children who are girls or live in utopia. In which case, please tell where you live because I think we will all want to join you.

Helleofabore · 19/03/2022 05:51

And by special category, I mean a category that is open to both sexes. Such as one of ‘someone who has supported women achieve’ in a way that deserves recognition.

But a category open to both sexes.