Dr Michael Webberley

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• haven't had a chance to keep an eye on his tribunal, but from what I'm reading:

'Dr Michael Webberley applied for voluntary erasure from the GMC register. The Tribunal say it is "unfortunate" that was not determined prior to the hearing today.

MW had two requests for postponement declined & has now provided new medical evidence for an adjournment'

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MW has not provided a response to allegations although GMC have received various documents

'Dr JD was assessing headaches of Patient V and was concerned V was starting hormones'

Is that referring to puberty blockers or testosterone? This was a nine year old child.

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'Dr JD was assessing headaches of Patient V and was concerned V was starting hormones'

Is that referring to puberty blockers or testosterone? This was a nine year old child.

GnRH, which is used to block puberty.

It is alleged that Dr Webberley’s failings related variously to consultation, history taking, examination, diagnosis, prescribing, communication, follow up, informed consent, assessment, working with colleagues, working within the limits of his expertise and working within guidance.

Many thanks for information and links. As a layperson, looking at the charges here, is there any aspect of being a doctor they think he was doing adequately?

Some of the details this afternoon have been ghastly. 'W' who knew they wanted testosterone from the age of 4? I don't know whether it's the way it has translated into the tweet but I'm struggling with the idea that a 4 year old knew about testosterone. I think I know who W was, an utterly tragic case and it must be hard for the family to hear all this. It does sound like the tribunal are being very thorough again though and I'm pleased about that.

Thanks, GCITC.

I might have heard of testosterone by the time I was 14 and doing Biology at school, but 4? I scarcely knew the difference between boys and girls at that age.

Tweets from this morning and this afternoon:

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Resumes Wednesday morning.

What a miserable read. These poor children - getting substandard care wherever they turn

It is, Mrs. My heart really aches for them.

@Imnotavetbut

Some of the details this afternoon have been ghastly. 'W' who knew they wanted testosterone from the age of 4? I don't know whether it's the way it has translated into the tweet but I'm struggling with the idea that a 4 year old knew about testosterone. I think I know who W was, an utterly tragic case and it must be hard for the family to hear all this. It does sound like the tribunal are being very thorough again though and I'm pleased about that.

I think that is quote revealing. It suggests a small child's understanding of what testosterone is as a magic medicine that turns them into a boy. If they had a proper understanding of what testosterone does then it wouldn't have been what they wanted at four as at four they wouldn't understand the limitations of it or the adverse effects and if they did it wouldn't have been what they wanted.

I work with 4 year olds.

They don’t know if they want chicken for lunch - let alone that it’s the same animal as the cartoon chicken on the wall.

One day they best pal is Matt and the next it’s Rachel.

One was recently telling me how her favourite colour was purple… her favourite colour is green… her favourite colour is blue… and this is a really bright, eloquent kid.

One day they ALL want the pink tumbler and the next day they all want the green one.

They will tell you that they went to Africa last night after school to visit tigers.

They get halfway home before having to be brought back because they have left their scooter/bag/worn someone else’s shoes/jumper.

Merrily tell mum/dad at pickup that they didn’t have lunch today because they ran out food (never happens).

Last week at the Easter egg hunt one told me that he was the Easter bunny. And that he didn’t like chocolate (oh really, so why are you scoffing chocolate eggs?)

My favourite (at my sisters old school) - all the 4 year old class want home and told their parents that their head teacher (my sister)… was dead. My sister only found out when she wandered into her office the next day and it was full of flowers.

Small kids knowing they are ‘in the wrong body’ and want drugs? I’m a bit dubious.

But four year olds believe in magic. As well as a potion to turn them into a boy they may also want one that would make them fly or invisible or turn them into a dog. It is not grounded in reality.

Yes, it's truly perplexing.

I may be reading too much into his absence but it certainly appears like he's accepted his fate. Imagine ending your career with allegations like that and knowing the harm you've caused (allegedly) and not giving any kind of response. HW isn't crowing on like she usually does either but I would guess she's prepping herself for her own tribunal which recommences shortly.

There are people posting on GenderGP's facebook that nobody is responding to emails/messages.

'We paid the startup fee after this and have since had no communication for 7 weeks, despite us trying to contact them multiple times. I'm starting to get concerned as our money has been taken yet we've now been left completely in the dark with no support.'

But they're still posting adverts on Twitter for cut price, discounted meds.

I suspect Gender GP didn't see W when they were 4 - more that W told them they had wanted to be a boy since then.

This is the tweet that has really upset me:
SJ: MW was unaware if W's mental health history. This is a contradiction as medical records on this date back to patient being a very small child.

So they didn't bother to check mental health history. Records available since a young age suggest serious, ongoing concerns. I just cannot fathom the mentality needed to blithely prescribe medication that can permanently affect the body to an adult, let alone a child, with potentially serious mental health difficulties.

Also this about Patient V:
SJ: Dr Keirans indicates PBs might have been appropriate but lack of documents and no trail to the background of treatment plans. Dr Keirans said its not clear the capacity of patient was assessed and no attempt to review impact of treatment

Not just no documentation of capacity assessment. No capacity assessment. For a 9 year old. My mind is boggled and my flabber is ghasted.

I am so angry about the harm that these charlatans have done to some extremely vulnerable young people.

Oh no, I'm sure they weren't involved when W was 4 years old, it was just a sentence that stuck out to me that's all. Sorry, not a useful exercise to extract a short piece from a tweet which is information being given several times removed from the original source. Potentially there may be further expansion later in the hearing.

The lack of due diligence with regards to his job is bloody awful. The things he has allegedly not done are the very fundamental basics, as pp said earlier, was there much he was doing right?

Interesting about the fb page, sounds like things aren't all rainbows and unicorns at GenderGP...

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It is alleged that Dr Webberley’s failings related variously to consultation, history taking, examination, diagnosis, prescribing, communication, follow up, informed consent, assessment, working with colleagues, working within the limits of his expertise and working within guidance.

Many thanks for information and links. As a layperson, looking at the charges here, is there any aspect of being a doctor they think he was doing adequately?

Billing? Sounds like they managed that part quite well

@Imnotavetbut

I'll be dipping in and out of this today. More on the murky world of Gender GP. MW is not in attendance and they've gone straight in on the usual allegations: prescribing without seeing patients, poor record keeping, failure to respond to lab results and failure to review. There seems to be a lot around the prescription of testosterone for men that he's diagnosed with hypergonadism and that he was prescribing it at very high quantities - the amount usually seen used by body builders. I'm sure it'll all become clearer as it progresses but it's all very strange at the moment.

I vaguely remember that they started off providing Clomid to anyone who wanted it, no questions asked, and only moved into prescribing sex hormones when they realised there was more money in it.

Honestly, regardless of where you fall on the trans women are women spectrum, you should want this bunch of grasping reckless snake oil salesmen closing down and striking off the register.

Absolutely change.

What I don't understand is why. Dr MW. was a consultant gastroenterologist in the NHS, IIRC. Dr HW was a GP in the NHS. Was it really all about the money? Was working in the NHS so awful or incompatible with family life that they turned to this online way of working instead?

Sounds a lot easier to me - quick online consultation, drugs sold to the patients on a subscription basis, no checks and balances or regulations by the looks of it.

I don’t think it’s just the money. I think it’s a genuine (if catastrophically mistaken) belief that the most important thing is for the child to experience the ‘right’ puberty.

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There are people posting on GenderGP's facebook that nobody is responding to emails/messages.

'We paid the startup fee after this and have since had no communication for 7 weeks, despite us trying to contact them multiple times. I'm starting to get concerned as our money has been taken yet we've now been left completely in the dark with no support.'

But they're still posting adverts on Twitter for cut price, discounted meds.

Oh, gosh, just checked their Facebook and all recent posts have been deleted, unfortunately deleting the several comments saying that Gender GP are not responding to emails/messages.

I have screenshots.

So they are definitely all a little the patients then if they have completely gone radio silent.