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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Dr Michael Webberley

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DomesticatedZombie · 11/03/2022 13:39

  • haven't had a chance to keep an eye on his tribunal, but from what I'm reading:

'Dr Michael Webberley applied for voluntary erasure from the GMC register. The Tribunal say it is "unfortunate" that was not determined prior to the hearing today.

MW had two requests for postponement declined & has now provided new medical evidence for an adjournment'

twitter.com/tribunaltweets2

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Datun · 26/05/2022 08:58

From the Twitter thread.

The thing to remember, is this clinic wasn't set up at random. Here's Helen Webberley admitting she discussed the service with Brendan and the late Terry Reed who founded the important lobby group

I did not know that, but it stands to reason. As does all the support from middle aged male transitioners.

MagnoliaTaint · 26/05/2022 13:06

It's worth having a read of the trans reddit.

Most of the posts, the large majority of them, are from people looking for medical/surgical procedures or discussing medical/surgical procedures. The medicalisation of gender is a huge part of the whole identity, it seems to me.

Why is it that being 'trans' or having 'gender incongruence' seems to require so much work, paid-for procedures, drugs, and surgery?

It's 'not a medical condition', as we're often told. So - why does everything seem to revolve about getting medical treatment?

www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/

FannyCann · 26/05/2022 13:40

I thought he offered voluntary removal because a) he hoped it would stop the trial and b) it would make it easier for him to continue to operate his gender clinics outside the UK

@viques

I think someone upthread suggested that voluntary removal would mean, along with stopping the trial, that there would be no damning judgement of facts and bad publicity. He could just quietly remove himself from the scene and carry on operating outside the U.K.

FannyCann · 26/05/2022 13:48

As you say @Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g
All that work and achievement thrown away.
I wonder if people who last worked with him as a NHS consultant gastroenterologist have some interesting insights. I bet they do. Surely this sort of behaviour doesn't come out of nowhere. I can't imagine any of the highly professional and caring consultants I work with retiring and suddenly going loco. Shock

MagnoliaTaint · 26/05/2022 14:04

That thread from Malcolm Clark is excellent.

'Something has gone fundamentally - historically- wrong in what used to be the gay movement when it actively conspires with wayward clinicians who flagrantly ignore the law and medical guidelines so they can interfere with the natural and normal development of gay teenagers.'

'...the Webberleys aren't outliers. They're the secret mainstream; providing what, in effect, Stonewall, and the other lobby groups, argue should be the standard NHS approach: every child's fantasy should be affirmed, parents ignored, mental health checks scrapped..

KohlaParasaurus · 26/05/2022 18:49

There are days when I don't begrudge a penny I've paid over the last four decades in GMC subscription fees. Today is one of those days.

Among the annoying and distressing things is that someone who has the training, qualifications and experience of a consultant gastroenterologist could have made an excellent living offering good private medical care in their area of expertise.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 26/05/2022 19:22

Lovelyricepudding · 26/05/2022 08:08

You're retiring anyway so what can the profession do? It will take them a while to strike you off and in the meantime you can supplement your retirement pot....

The economics of the whole thing baffle me. How could it have been more lucrative to run this online business with all the costs of a website and staff, as opposed to doing private and locum work?

SupportSpindle · 27/05/2022 13:32

It's baffling isn't it, @Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g, when there is a shortage of specialist urologists and gastro-enterologists to treat adults post-surgery, whether it be hysterectomies for women, cancer surgery for men and women, or 'transition' surgery for men and women.

Patients are being left to flounder.

Binglebong · 28/05/2022 12:57

Ego. How many urologists do you know by name? And j get people don't fawn over them like people do a doctor who is helping people "be their true self".

Cuck00soup · 29/05/2022 12:08

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 25/05/2022 19:54

It takes such a lot of effort to get into medical school, to keep passing the exams, to get onto specialist training programmes, to get your first consultant post and to keep going through all the challenges a medical career throws at you until finally you reach retirement age and after a brief rest, if you want, go back and do some locum work as and when it suits you. All thrown away because after retiring from the NHS ex-Dr W appears to have ignored everything he must have learned in the course of a long career as a gastroenterologist, and taken on some of the most complex and vulnerable patients any doctor will ever see, young kids and teenagers who needed specialist help from child psychiatrists, child psychologists and possibly paediatric endocrinologists. He had no training in any of those areas but prescribed for them anyway and didn't bother much about record-keeping. It's a shocking dereliction of duty. I'm very relieved by the verdict, and the DM reporting on it.

It's not so unusual to find a consultant who thinks record keeping is for other people. Although being male seems to be a risk factor.

It's also not that rare for those approaching retirement to be captivated by offers from pharma so I can see how this happened, especially when your spouse has already followed the path of I'mrighteousness.

This isn't just being a money grabbing twit though. It's being a don't give a shit about your patients money grabbing twit.

justgotosleepffs · 30/05/2022 08:38

So can someone clarify the wider practical implications of Michael Webberly being struck off? Does this mean that GenderGP can now no longer prescribe in the UK? What is the situation with Helen Webberly - I thought she was being investigated too? Bottom line is can UK children and fsmilies still access prescription PBs/CSH outside of the NHS or has this ruling brought that to an end?

OldCrone · 30/05/2022 09:08

The Webberleys were already suspended. They have been employing other doctors to write prescriptions for the last few years. Their company, GenderGP, was also sold and is now based outside the UK. I don't think Michael Webberley being struck off will change anything.

MagnoliaTaint · 30/05/2022 09:59

I think GenderGP has been set up so that neither Webberley is involved in doctoring for them. A journo had been doing an investigation into where it was registered, somewhere exotic iirc.

So, this won't stop people accessing PBs etc outwith NHS.

OldCrone · 30/05/2022 10:41

GenderGP was sold to Harland International (registered in Hong Kong) in 2020.

web.archive.org/web/20201010214113/www.gendergp.com/statement-from-harland-international-ltd-trading-as-gendergp/

GenderGP was founded by Dr Helen Webberley in 2015, to provide health and wellbeing services to transgender people and those who support them. At that time, GenderGP was owned by Online GP Services Ltd, a company registered in the UK and directed by Dr Helen Webberley.

In 2017, Dr Webberley was prevented from working as a doctor pending investigation by the GMC into her work with transgender people, she has not provided any medical services since that date.

In 2018, Online GP Services Ltd, together with its director, Dr Webberley, was convicted of operating a healthcare service without the required registration. Following this conviction, Online GP Services Ltd, GenderGP and all its assets were acquired by Harland International Ltd. Dr Helen Webberley continues in her role as a non-medical advisor on issues relating to the rights of trans people.

Harland International Ltd is registered in Hong Kong and is a global organisation which provides advocacy services for LGBTQI across the world. Harland International Ltd owns and manages GenderGP which continues to provide a remote, digital, telehealth service to transgender people from all over the world, as well as fighting for improvements in healthcare and support services for this group. http://harland.international

GenderGP provides healthcare services to people in the UK, Europe and worldwide, these include: gender-affirming support, medication and monitoring. GenderGP’s expertise comes from a multidisciplinary team of gender specialists including doctors, counsellors and psychotherapists from various countries including the UK, the EU, Egypt and the USA.

In order to make healthcare as affordable as possible, and to provide the widest range of options to its users, GenderGP works both as an independent service and collaboratively with the patient’s doctor. Patients can choose whether to have blood tests privately or through their doctor. Medication can also be prescribed by their family doctor, under a shared care agreement, or via a private prescription.

Prescriptions for service users can be dispensed by their local pharmacy or using an online pharmacy, all pharmacies recommended by GenderGP are operating entirely within the required regulations of their country.

In the case of the UK, NHS England issued advice on ‘Primary Care Responsibilities In Regard To Requests by Private On-Line Medical Service Providers to Prescribe Hormone Treatments for Transgender People’. This circular SSC 1826 dated 16 January 2018 can be found in full on our website.
www.gendergp.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/GMC-advice-to-GPs-on-online-specialists.pdf

All of GenderGP’s medical specialists are regulated in their own country, by their individual regulators. GenderGP operates entirely within the law and follows international published guidance on the care of transgender patients of all ages. There is no published UK medical guidance on this subject.

Any published inference that there is some kind of illegal, immoral or unethical activity being undertaken since the acquisition of GenderGP in 2018 by Harland International Ltd, will be regarded as defamatory.

SpindleSheWrote · 30/05/2022 10:53

GenderGP has an entry on the Companies House website with suprisingly little information - only four sets of accounts available, all for a 'dormant company', and only for the years 2017, 2019, 2020 and 2021.

I'd link to it here but those Companies House pages are an absolute bugger and the links are vast and unwieldy.

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