Does anyone else cringe at the word "diversity"?

[SunniDelite]

I had this email from someone on Crowdfunder...
"I am raising funds for the Lenny Henry Centre for Media Diversity at Birmingham City University.
In the last year, the centre has revealed the racism and prejudice actors face when they go auditions and, for the first time, exposed the lack of gender diversity of sound recordists. We're now building programmes to address this problem. So far, our research has highlighted specific problems for disabled people working in the industry and created more job opportunities for Black people behind the camera. Additionally, we are working with major broadcasters to change how they report on race, gender and disability."
I have no problem with the race and disability part, but what on earth does "lack of gender diversity of sound recordists" mean? That there aren't enough women? or that there aren't enough blue-hairs who can't decide what they are? or there aren't enough transwomen?
It's come to a point where I'm suspicious that any organisation that mentions diversity is a TRA, even if they're talking about hedgehog populations! :)

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And in the same way, we have the social categories of "man" and "woman",

Woman is just a name for a human female who isn't a child. The fact that some people think it's a social category that can be split from biology notwithstanding. I disagree.

Marriage is not a material thing.

@TinselAngel

My question with regards to the modern concept of EDI, is where does it leave the people that are excluded by it, and how can excluding some people in the name of inclusion be justified?

Eg if a conservative Muslim is uncomfortable with his employer celebrating Pride, where does that leave his right to "bring his whole self to work?

Or are we saying it's OK to exclude religious people from some workplaces? If so, how does that fit with the Equality Act?

Anyway, to the point? While the employer and the LGBTQ/LGBTQ-supportive employees celebrate Pride, the conservative employee can feel free to quietly ignore it.

Just as how any other employee who might feel uncomfortable with a Muslim employee at work would also be best of simply getting over it.

The general rule of thumb is that there is no pass for discrimination.

@Ereshkigalangcleg

And in the same way, we have the social categories of "man" and "woman",

Woman is just a name for a human female who isn't a child. The fact that some people think it's a social category that can be split from biology notwithstanding. I disagree.

Marriage is not a material thing.

“A marriage is just a name for a union between a man and a woman with the intent to conceive children” – same thing

Have you considered that your definition can simply be rejected by others?

Have you considered any if the very recent and ongoing court cases where women have rejected certain ideologies?

Why, in particular should Pride be celebrated by an employer any more than Eid?

Why is more emphasis not given to the truly marginalised people in society- ie the disabled? I'd suggest it's easier and cheaper to fly a Pride flag than it is to take measures to make your workplace attractive to disabled employees.

Anyway, it's funny. Centuries of literature on how manhood and womanhood are socially constructed, and then as soon as trans people become more visible in like 2015, bam, suddenly everything about the gender binary is just immutable biological reality, no malleability allowed.

Typical dog whistle racism at play on this thread.

Pat yourselves on your back.
Job done for today

@SamphiretheStickerist Sometimes I just don't have the energy to T3RF (as in Tired of Explaining Reality to F*ckwits )
But here"s a lovely version of Walk away Renee...

@Lekisa658

Anyway, it's funny. Centuries of literature on how manhood and womanhood are socially constructed, and then as soon as trans people become more visible in like 2015, bam, suddenly everything about the gender binary is just immutable biological reality, no malleability allowed.

No. That really isn't what any GC poster here is saying.

Sex is binary.

Personalities are unlimited, highly individual and should know no bounds, except the sensible one of 'do no harm'

But many have been here before you trying to impune that mangled claptrap!

And when organisation are mandating pronouns and diversity training, our hypothetical religious conservative doesn't have the option of just quietly sitting it out.

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But here"s a lovely version of Walk away Renee...

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@TeaAddict235

Typical dog whistle racism at play on this thread.

Pat yourselves on your back.
Job done for today

I hope you don't mean my hypothetical conservative Muslim? Apologies if that came across racist, you can change it for any other religion- eg Evangelical Christianity, Catholicism etc

“Why, in particular should Pride be celebrated by an employer any more than Eid?”

Plenty companies and organizations do acknowledge and celebrate Eid, especially on social media.

“Why is more emphasis not given to the truly marginalised people in society- ie the disabled?”

This is just an attempt at pitting marginalized groups against each other, yet another tactic frequently utilized by oppressors. Funny that you'd do it. Definitely doesn't say anything about you.

Fun fact: Many disabled people are also trans or otherwise queer.

Another fun fact: You can do both. They're not in opposition to each other. The inclusive, progressive, queer circles you hate sooo much, talk about accessibility aaall the time.

Have you considered that your definition can simply be rejected by others?

I have, people believe all kinds of odd things. We started where you seemed to think I didn't have the right to simply reject the concept of "cis"?

A marriage is just a name for a union between a man and a woman with the intent to conceive children” – same thing

Biological sex is a material thing which can be observed in all species. Marriage is not. Are you really this obtuse?

Sex is binary.

Personalities are unlimited, highly individual and should know no bounds, except the sensible one of 'do no harm'

But many have been here before you trying to impune that mangled claptrap

This. So tired of the dishonest framing of GC feminist women's views.

@Ereshkigalangcleg

A marriage is just a name for a union between a man and a woman with the intent to conceive children” – same thing

Biological sex is a material thing which can be observed in all species. Marriage is not. Are you really this obtuse?

But it is simply your belief that the labels of "man" and "woman" should be dictated by biological sex, or that people should be segregated on that basis.

Yes that is my belief. Not sure where I claimed differently? Biological sex is the material thing, not my feminist beliefs about respect for women and girls.

The "labels" of "man" and "woman" literally only exist due to the existence of biological sex.

A man is a male human who has reached maturity. A woman is a female human in the same way. It's not hard.

@Ereshkigalangcleg

Sex is binary.

Personalities are unlimited, highly individual and should know no bounds, except the sensible one of 'do no harm'

But many have been here before you trying to impune that mangled claptrap

This. So tired of the dishonest framing of GC feminist women's views.

Who asked you about "personalities"?

What people oppose about your ideology is your persistence in imposing unwanted labels and strict segregation.

And frankly, you're wrong about sex being binary, but you're clearly not willing to listen to anything that may contradict your rigid
worldview.

But it is simply your belief that the labels of "man" and "woman" should be dictated by biological sex, or that people should be segregated on that basis.

Well, not being so self absorbed that I think I can force the world to change its understanding of biological science, to take well understood words and paste on a new meaning, yes. Biological sex...

As for that last bit about segregation. Just sod off. That's disingenuous claptrap that absolutely ignores safeguarding, statistics around violence and everyone's lived experiences.

Who are you trying to support with that? Who do you think benefits from it? And how?

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