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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

GG Australia sacks CEO

35 replies

UnadulteratedCat · 12/02/2022 09:16

For asking if we can go back to biological girls only. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10504417/Sacked-Girl-Guides-CEO-claims-victim-cancel-culture-tweet-trans-girls.html

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UnadulteratedCat · 12/02/2022 09:17

This little slip was quite telling Grin

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Helleofabore · 12/02/2022 09:45

Thank you for sharing this. I did not know this had happened.

It will certainly captured people’s attention as it ripples through though.

I know of no friends or family in Australia who would accept a teenaged or adult male sleeping in the tent with their daughter at a GG camp.

Not one.

timeisnotaline · 12/02/2022 09:46

Only one commenter so far, and they are a disappointing representative of Aussie daily Mail readers (what a sentence!). I saw greens out campaigning today and thought I wonder what they think a woman is, but I think I know…

Helleofabore · 12/02/2022 09:53

I think we do know time. I think we do know.

UnadulteratedCat · 12/02/2022 10:07

I withdrew my dd from GG in aus a few years ago because of this policy.

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Whatsnewpussyhat · 12/02/2022 10:38

They claim to be inclusive of all girls and women regardless of 'gender identity' yet would kick out a girl who identifies as a boy? A girl that most likely would benefit massively from a single sex environment.

Buy yes 'girl' guides now exist to pander to penis and provide validation for male identities.

TurquoiseBaubles · 12/02/2022 10:43

There are only two comments, both heavily downvoted which is rather strange.

I presume any comments agreeing with her are not allowed.

OperationDessertStorm · 12/02/2022 11:04

I can see why they weren’t happy with the way she tweeted at rather than contacted the lawyer through a private channel, but it’s still mad.

This goes against every safeguarding rule. I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt in making it mixed sex as an org but if you’re supposed to just blindly pretend that it’s not, including on overnight trips, that’s just unworkable.

timeisnotaline · 12/02/2022 11:14

I almost think the worst bit is booting out girls who think they are boys. That’s the actually horrible bit- having some gender confusion little 10yo girl? Some people might support you but this is girl guides - fuck off then to penis land we won’t touch your boy identifying issues.

Yes @Helleofabore unfortunately! This is Kooyong, frydenbergs electorate, so no chance my vote is going anywhere it won’t count anyway.

DdraigGoch · 12/02/2022 11:22

@TurquoiseBaubles

There are only two comments, both heavily downvoted which is rather strange.

I presume any comments agreeing with her are not allowed.

Nine hours and only two comments? Both from the same user? Something fishy there.
Helleofabore · 12/02/2022 11:58

I almost think the worst bit is booting out girls who think they are boys.

I am horrified at that thought too.

Manderleyagain · 12/02/2022 12:01

I thought thd comments was the weirdest thing. For me it's the .co.uk web address, but I guess it's actually thd Australian paper. The moderators have been taking lessons from the guardian? There's no way the comments wld look like that here.
Fancy being sacked for asking a question.

TheSandgroper · 12/02/2022 14:04

I hope these photos work.

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TheSandgroper · 12/02/2022 14:04

Ok. Photo 1

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TheSandgroper · 12/02/2022 14:05

Photo 2

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TheSandgroper · 12/02/2022 14:06

The top photo is 3/3.

I hope Karyn hangs in there.

UnadulteratedCat · 12/02/2022 20:45

Excellent article Sandgroper. I don’t know if Karyn has any gardening that needs doing or if she’s even intent on fighting.

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GlorianaCervixia · 13/02/2022 01:40

I think Karyn is considering whether to look at legal options over this.

It's depressing in Australia right now. This, and the recent chaos of the religious discrimination bill that had journalists and politicians talking about trans kids as if they were an orientation exactly the same as gay kids, has highlighted how far behind we are.

DifficultBloodyWoman · 13/02/2022 04:12

I don’t have a twitter account but could I please ask if anyone here does, that they tweet Karyn and suggest she visit this board?

I would like her to know that she has support.

DifficultBloodyWoman · 13/02/2022 04:15

@GlorianaCervixia

I think Karyn is considering whether to look at legal options over this.

It's depressing in Australia right now. This, and the recent chaos of the religious discrimination bill that had journalists and politicians talking about trans kids as if they were an orientation exactly the same as gay kids, has highlighted how far behind we are.

You’re so right. The media coverage was a joke with absolutely no critical thinking.

The media did nothing to enlighten people about the debate.

I really wish someone would just stand up and say - we are single sex organisation and welcome all genders - just to get the point across.

TheCurrywurstPrion · 13/02/2022 05:13

In a letter Ms Lisignoli was told she had 'caused a ­serious and imminent risk to the reputation of the organisation'.

She has indeed. Presumably the new regime has been introduced wholly under the radar and now the cat is out of the bag.

Or are they seriously trying to imply that the general public would see her as transphobic for believing it’s inappropriate to have teenage boys sharing tents with younger girls?

Mummyoflittledragon · 13/02/2022 06:16

I wonder if dismissing an employee in this way would hold up in court in Australia.

timeisnotaline · 13/02/2022 19:18

@Mummyoflittledragon

I wonder if dismissing an employee in this way would hold up in court in Australia.
I expect it’s fairly straightforward to dismiss a ceo for reputational issues, it’s how all the high profile dismissals go.
TheSandgroper · 15/02/2022 11:17

Thanks, Karyn, for your bravery.

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LunaLights · 15/02/2022 23:47

Thanks for posting, @TheSandgroper.