"JK Rowling is a gold-plated hero': Author Anthony Horowitz blasts cancel culture"

[ScreamingMeMe]

Good to see another successful author speaking out

'JK Rowling is a gold-plated hero': Author Anthony Horowitz blasts cancel culture and says writers are 'under siege' and should 'lead the agenda, not be cowed by it'

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10483263/amp/Anthony-Horowitz-blasts-cancel-culture-says-writers-siege.html

FebruaryRainandSleet

yes you are quite correct, February. I suspect we have here a plopper by name and a plopper by nature.

I think I need to visit Bunberry.

@Helleofabore

What may seem like a wide range of opinions to you but doesn’t to those with a superficial knowledge of the board is not a wide range of opinions, or it would be seen so as though who don’t frequent these boards often.
It’s a wide range of opinions from those who already hold similar enough opinions to congregate in the same online space for passionate feminists who mainly talk about trans issues. That really isn’t a wide range of opinions at all. I’m not saying there isn’t nuance within that, or even that there opinions are necessarily wrong - but it can’t be honestly defined as a wide range of opinions. It’s nuanced opinions from one group of people with opinions similar enough to define themselves as being part of the same group and who all comment in the same forum on the same issue with a similar outlook on said issue.

@Helleofabore

And there it is. No I have never reported a post here and don’t “hang around” here. But you will believe what you wish I guess.

@allmywhat

What you’ve written as applied to me is a figment of your own imagination. I don’t hang around here, I’ve never reported a comment here and I’m not trying to police your conversation.
That you really believe this is what Im secretly doing speaks to how far down and n the trenches/rabbit hole you’ve gone on this.

If you think feminists took Scouts away from boys, and forced them to admit girls, you will of course be able to supply material evidence that this was the case, and that Scouts had loads of DBS checked men willing to open and run units, week in and week out.

In fact, I bet you give up two evenings a week to run one yourself, don't you?

I think you're responding to me, and I didn't say or imply you did. It seems that you misunderstood "same shit, different hat on" on multiple levels (one of your misunderstandings is that any response from you was required.)

Strange isn't it? That we fought tooth and nail to have the one feminist board remain when complainers pressured MNHQ to split the boards. Now we get random posters who seem to have their own preconceived and predjudiced view of this board telling us that we 'mainly talk about trans issues'.

Firstly, we discuss issues facing women's sex based rights, including prostitution, surrogacy, as well because that is our focus. Upholding the rights of all females, whatever age.

But yes, there is a lot of threads discussing the areas where the rights of women and girls conflict with those of another group. Because MNHQ wanted it to be all on one board.

If you wish to discuss other aspects of feminism that isn't 'sex and gender' you might like to use the other feminist board.

[quote Ploppingperp06]@Helleofabore

And there it is. No I have never reported a post here and don’t “hang around” here. But you will believe what you wish I guess.[/quote]
Who ever said you did?

Welcome to Mumsnet Plopping. As a new poster with some decidedly hostile / sceptical views to a predominantly woman dominated forum, are you sure you're in the right place?

@Goatsaregreat

If this is meant to be an echo chamber when only like opinions are allowed, then I guess I’m not in the right place.

[quote Ploppingperp06]@Helleofabore

And there it is. No I have never reported a post here and don’t “hang around” here. But you will believe what you wish I guess.[/quote]
There what is?

And who has accused you of reporting posts?

Shall we get back to discussing what it is that Joanne Rowling has done to deserve either support or disagreement and stop derailing OP's thread?

@PurgatoryOfPotholes

If you think feminists took Scouts away from boys, and forced them to admit girls, you will of course be able to supply material evidence that this was the case, and that Scouts had loads of DBS checked men willing to open and run units, week in and week out.

In fact, I bet you give up two evenings a week to run one yourself, don't you?

I'd like to see the evidence that has made plopper so confident that it was 'women and girls' who forced the change for the single sex regulations that Scouts used?

I suspect the attempt to mix the very separate issues of scouts becoming mixed sex and the complete failure of Girl Guides to ensure their leaders understood safeguarding in the depth required AND understood that the volunteer's code of not posting sexualised content to social media is deliberate.

But just shows either ignorance or disingenuous posting. So I expect we will see no evidence at all. I am sure it will be discounted as an 'opinion'.

In the meantime, I am delighted to see that Horowitz continues to stick up for JK.

[quote Ploppingperp06]@Goatsaregreat

If this is meant to be an echo chamber when only like opinions are allowed, then I guess I’m not in the right place.[/quote]
OnMumsnet you'll find a vast swathe of women's experiences about all aspects of life - domestic violence, education, the media, childcare, managing money, politics, policing and so much more - but be careful in the Doghouse as they take no prisoners.
I just noticed your comments about the lack of "balance" to be found on a forum of mainly (but not solely ) women so am a bit surprised to find someone so sceptical about women's views, rocking up here

My interest was rather caught by the discussion about why Scouts went co-ed and I ended up having a bit of a read about it. The Chief Scout’s Advance Party Report Design for Scouting published in 1966, designed to investigate the drop in numbers resulted in many changes to Scouting and seems to have been the impetus for girls to be admitted into the Venture Scouts section in 1976. It wasn't decided until February 1990 to become co-educational. There's no indication in any of the sources I could find that it was as a result of feminists pushing for the change. It seems to have been solely as a result of dropping numbers.

There's quite a recent article on the BBC website regarding the drop in numbers in Scouting due to the pandemic. There seems to have been 3 main periods of time in which numbers have dropped - during WW1 when male leaders were away fighting, in the 1960's and currently.

As far as I can see, none of these periods have had anything to do with feminists. At all.

I've just realised that co-ed/co-educational isn't quite the right term. I should have put mixed sex.

I just noticed your comments about the lack of "balance" to be found on a forum of mainly (but not solely ) women so am a bit surprised to find someone so sceptical about women's views, rocking up here

Shocked I tell you!!

Absolutely shocked! Never seen it before. Ever!

Helleofabore

All this is getting me wanting to get the offspring started on a new Horowitz series. Any ideas?

I am embarrassed to say I have no suggestions. Maybe plopper has though.

Scouts had a bad rap for child abusing male leaders once upon a time (and it's not gone away completely*). This had the twin effect of 1. putting off decent men volunteering and 2. putting off parents sending their boys. Women had to step up to stop units folding. As I understand it, it was deemed unfair that women were running units but their daughters couldn't join.

*historic and current cases

www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jul/25/uk-ireland-child-sexual-abuse-scout-movement

How they treated one abused Girl Scout

www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jul/25/negligently-amateur-survivor-decries-scouts-inquiry-into-alleged-abuse-at-13

Thanks GuidingforDummies

We are yet to establish whether pp was trying to deliberating create a false comparison between the entry of females into scouts (as quite a few of us have pointed out due to decline in numbers and failed safeguarding) and the current failure of safeguarding that the girl guides are trying to ignore, that just so happens to be a transitioned male but any guide leader doing the same should be held to the same high standards.

I know when I signed up to volunteer a couple of years ago, I read and had to sign my understanding of the code of conduct. I believe that one that expressly said no posting of sexualised content on social media was a clause I agreed to.

But we are not sure whether the mixing of the two scenarios was deliberate or a lack of understanding.

There was a Mr Ploppy in Blackadder. Worked in the prison, as I recall. Perhaps it’s the same one.

As for posts that go against the grain not being deleted - sure hasn’t been what I’ve observed. Usually any ongoing argument/discussion will garner enough reports from the prominent side (ie in line with the views of people who mostly frequent these boards) to be deleted

Utter rubbish 😀😀

Absolutely ludicrous 😀😀😀😀

@RufustheFloralmissingreindeer

As for posts that go against the grain not being deleted - sure hasn’t been what I’ve observed. Usually any ongoing argument/discussion will garner enough reports from the prominent side (ie in line with the views of people who mostly frequent these boards) to be deleted

Utter rubbish 😀😀

Absolutely ludicrous 😀😀😀😀

As evidenced by a poster on a number of threads who is very much the opposite view and has garned very few deletions.

Or a poster who was (somewhat horrifyingly) condoning death and rape threats against women with the argument of 'well you don't think we exist so they can't be real death and/or rape threats, can they?'