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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Emma Bateman suspended from Green Party.

122 replies

Signalbox · 04/02/2022 14:40

mobile.twitter.com/EmmaBatemanGPW/status/1489607775005155333

Emma Bateman suspended from Green Party.
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crowsfeet57 · 04/02/2022 15:56

Can we get all the sensible GC female politicians to join together and form a party that's focussed on maintaining women's sex based rights, sorting out MVAWG and medical misogyny

Please let's do this!

RoxiTheRexy · 04/02/2022 16:05

Surely the Greens can see this is a vote loser. Emma won the Co-chair position easily, Shahrar Ali came 3rd. The None-binary gruesome twosome of Amelia and Tamsin lost the leadership campaign. Clearly there’s much less of an appetite for Trans stuff in the Greens than they think there is?

I mean a large part of the Greens for years was looking bonkers and not getting votes. But that’s all changed in the last 10 years. But they are going throw away all that recent success for the sake of pandering to a few

FOJN · 04/02/2022 16:08

That is interesting. A short read of it certainly shows that a few vocal Greens are definitely in breach of it imo.

Those were my thoughts. The statements on safeguarding would be funny if the GP history wasn't so concerning and I'm not convinced they've learnt any lessons.

ScreamingMeMe · 04/02/2022 16:08

@DomesticatedZombie

I do recall seeing the other co chair (elected by far fewer votes, btw) saying she was working on getting Emma suspended. Can only presume she was somehow successful. Outrageous.
Yes it was linked in this thread.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4468596-green-party-attack

FOJN · 04/02/2022 16:09

How did Emma get unsuspended last time?

For the crime of being in possession of a vagina and brain at the same time.

ScreamingMeMe · 04/02/2022 16:11

Oh and if you click through those quoted tweets, Mimmymum has got her oar in this too.

twitter.com/ItsKateActually/status/1487970654003646464?s=20&t=UkuMjUjfT52NLVpub92ZsA

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/02/2022 16:13

For the crime of being in possession of a vagina and brain at the same time.

No I mean, she was suspended, how did she get back in? Did she appeal?

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 04/02/2022 16:21

I wonder if she can team up with Sharah Ali who is taking the Green Party to court over his likely suspension from his role.

Batmammy · 04/02/2022 16:26

Just cancelled my membership, The Greens are a lost cause.

TheGreatATuin · 04/02/2022 16:31

I know a few people have decided to leave the Green Party over this and I understand completely.
However, I'm going to stay.
Emma, Shahrar and others are being targeted so heavily now because they have been successful.
The recent Green Women elections made it very clear that TRA behaviour is not popular with grassroots members and most members know what a woman is. This is them throwing their toys out of the cot because they're not winning.
If there were another party that supported women, I might consider jumping ship, but taking back the Greens is the best chance we have for a political voice IMO.
There will be more internal Green Party elections. I want to be around to vote in them for people like Emma and Shahrar, and against totalitarian policies and motions.

DomesticatedZombie · 04/02/2022 16:32

So person1 wins co-chair outright. Person2, who disagrees with Person1 politically, scrapes through to co-chair on the third round, then puts in a complaint about Person1 getting her suspended and effectively removing her from the post and Person2 is now effectively sole chair.
In what fucking world is that acceptable?
Little Trumpists, the lot of them.

Angry
TheGreatATuin · 04/02/2022 16:33

@Ereshkigalangcleg

For the crime of being in possession of a vagina and brain at the same time.

No I mean, she was suspended, how did she get back in? Did she appeal?

She was suspended last year and won the appeal, I believe. This is new suspension that appears to have come through today.
DomesticatedZombie · 04/02/2022 16:57

Is it possible to put in a complaint about her suspension?

TheGreatATuin · 04/02/2022 16:58

@DomesticatedZombie

Is it possible to put in a complaint about her suspension?
I was wondering about that too.
RedToothBrush · 04/02/2022 17:14

Why aren't there more women in politics?

Let me think about this.

Hasselhoffsheadband · 04/02/2022 17:17

Do the Green Party actually think that shit like this is going to get them elected and represented in Parliament? They are an absolute joke!

FOJN · 04/02/2022 17:18

Ereshkigalangcleg

Apologies, I should read with more care, I missed the "un".

bishophaha · 04/02/2022 17:21

Tempted to join.
You try and knock one woman down, 3 more will pop up.

OperationDessertStorm · 04/02/2022 17:32

So she was elected to a position to talk about women and then suspended for talking about women...

And it’s not the first time.

WarriorN · 04/02/2022 17:35

@bishophaha

Tempted to join. You try and knock one woman down, 3 more will pop up.

That's why I did.

The only way to sort it is to actually have more of us pointing out the ridiculousness of it all.

The planet is far to precious to waste on blue hair and hormones.

It's notable that the deep green resistance does know what women are.

WarriorN · 04/02/2022 17:36

I don't know why Ani cares; they's non binary and thus relinquished their woman status.

Somanysocks · 04/02/2022 17:56

I voted Green once in the locals before I realised they were nuts. They came last anyway.

ScreamingMeMe · 04/02/2022 18:05

Cllr Zoe Hatch:

@GreenZoeHatch
It is with immense sadness that I have just informed @lizreason
, Green Party chair, that I am resigning my membership of the party. Whilst the party fails to recognise and uphold the protected characteristic of sex I can no longer give it my support or endorsement. See letter:

twitter.com/GreenZoeHatch/status/1489534055314083842?s=20&t=jK-VWQzwZTlypxOr_w8xsA

The Green Party leadership has not made any attempt to listen to feminists and understand how damaging our current policies on trans rights are to women and children.

People look to us as the party of sensible thoughtful politics but when we encourage a culture of no-debate and endorse wholesale acceptance of trans activism without applying reason or balance, we do harm.

Our policies, unchecked, push young people on to a pathway of psychological and physical damage; medical transition leads to sterilisation and sexual dysfunction, causing lifelong suffering. Our young people need us to show we care for their welfare, not their ideology.

Greens who campaign for self-id inadvertently support nefarious individuals, male predators and abusers, by enabling them to access safe spaces for women without limit.

When Greens issue statements against the Equalities and Human Rights Commission they undermine the principles of the Equality Act 2010. They erode the rights of women to organise according to their sex.

Within the Green Party, there is a sustained and organised attack on people who speak out against our misguided policies and their implications. Some members are wary of stating their honest opinions for fear of being branded bigots or transphobes.

In facilitating this culture of bullying and harassment, our leadership bodies are demonstrating that they do not understand how damaging our policies are and why there is an urgent need to revoke them.

As an executive officer of the party, I am now being asked to actively engage in this process of harassment by removing one of our spokespeople. Not only is this wrong on the basis of freedom of speech and the safeguarding issues outlined above,

ScreamingMeMe · 04/02/2022 18:06

continued

I cannot rule out this act of harassment is racially motivated given he is a person of colour and of the Muslim faith.

I will not give legitimacy to the process to remove Shahrar Ali by participating in it.

This is not a side issue that will go away if we ignore it. It is the single greatest threat to women’s rights today. Whilst The Green Party fails to recognise and adequately uphold the protected characteristic of sex, I cannot give it my support or endorsement.

I call on the leadership of the party to resolve this issue and return to its important work of addressing the Climate Crisis - this is what people expect of you. They look to The Green Party to show leadership on the most urgent issue of our lives and the party is failing them.

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