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Helleofabore · 02/02/2022 11:51

They tweeted that they reported it a week or so ago. I will see if I can find a link.

aliasundercover · 02/02/2022 12:07

That's ok Helleofabore, I trust you. I just wanted to make sure it wan't something that was assumed.

It doesn't surprise me in the least.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 02/02/2022 12:15

That is odd. MW's twitter does seem to have gone puff.

Not "page unavailable" or "blocked" - just absent.

Helleofabore · 02/02/2022 13:01

Well I guess admitting you use Scotlands police force as your own squad to fight things you don’t like to hear will mean you are likely to get unwanted attention.

I know there are pics floating around so it would not be hard to find it. It was around the 20th January or so. Whenever Nicola posted about it, MW then tweeted.

barleybadminton · 02/02/2022 21:59

@Helleofabore

They tweeted that they reported it a week or so ago. I will see if I can find a link.
Did you find that link because The Times are now saying this story wasn't true?

"Our article “Police interview charity chief after tweet ending referrals to rape centre” (Jan 29) and subsequent articles reported that Police Scotland interviewed Nicola Murray, the head of the Brodie’s Trust domestic abuse support group, about a reported hate crime. The police have now confirmed she was not the subject of a complaint or investigation."

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/corrections-and-clarifications-5phnn0xh2

MidsomerMurmurs · 02/02/2022 22:04

The police have now confirmed she was not the subject of a complaint or investigation

Um. Ok. But did Police Scotland enter her home? Did they talk about checking her thinking? Are they saying they did not go to see her? This is really odd.

barleybadminton · 02/02/2022 22:10

@MidsomerMurmurs

The police have now confirmed she was not the subject of a complaint or investigation

Um. Ok. But did Police Scotland enter her home? Did they talk about checking her thinking? Are they saying they did not go to see her? This is really odd.

Who knows, but it certainly seems like the claims any police action was instigated by Mridul Wadhwa were a complete fabrication.
Rhannion · 02/02/2022 22:30

In the words of Mandy Rice Davies “ they would say that wouldn’t they? “

barleybadminton · 02/02/2022 22:38

@Rhannion

In the words of Mandy Rice Davies “ they would say that wouldn’t they? “
I very much doubt The Times would have erased all references to this story and issued a correction if they had doubts the police were telling the truth.
Triphazards · 02/02/2022 22:45

So nobody went to anyone's house?

I'll not commit to believing that, just yet.

barleybadminton · 02/02/2022 22:52

@Triphazards

So nobody went to anyone's house?

I'll not commit to believing that, just yet.

Well Nicola Murray has locked down her twitter and put out a statement accusing publications of revealing where she lived and embellishing her story - and saying she won't comment further so I guess we'll never no for sure.

But it's clearly not true that any action taken (if action was taken) was down to a complaint from Mridul Wadwa who has had to leave twitter after receiving relentless abuse from those who claimed it was.

Rhannion · 03/02/2022 00:23

I won’t spare any sympathy for a person who lied by omission to get a job specifically meant for an adult human female. No thank you

allmywhat · 03/02/2022 01:00

Screenshot of Wadhwa confirming they make a regular habit of running to the police about “hate.”

The Google cache of their deleted tweet is archived at archive dot is forwardslash hN5zy

Felt it might be important to preserve the evidence given the insinuations some are making.

Police interview Nicola Murray
allmywhat · 03/02/2022 01:25

mobile.twitter.com/thatveganlass/status/1485152065781391361?s=20

There is a contemporaneous thread of people discussing Wadwha’s admission.

It makes some sense of the police statement and their attitude. MW does this regularly, there are never any charges. Why even open an investigation?

Datun · 03/02/2022 05:52

The police have now confirmed she was not the subject of a complaint or investigation."

So why go round her house then?

SportsMother · 03/02/2022 06:04

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

MidsomerMurmurs · 03/02/2022 06:56

@barleybadminton I very much doubt The Times would have erased all references to this story and issued a correction if they had doubts the police were telling the truth

But the “errors and omissions” piece does not address the points in the article that was withdrawn. It doesn’t say that no police officers went to Nicola Murray’s house.

That’s the story. If the whole thing is not true - no police officers visited Nicola - then why doesn’t the Times correction say that?

If police officers are going round to peoples houses and “checking their thinking” when there hasn’t been a complaint and there isn’t an investigation then that’s a bigger story. Huge.

TheCurrywurstPrion · 03/02/2022 07:31

This story is bizarre. I hope there will be clarification regarding what happened. Someone is being economical with the truth here. It’s very odd that all the reports have been removed. Nicola Murray has locked down her Twitter account, but hasn’t retracted the statement that the police visited.

This article still mentions the visit.

www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scottish-news/msps-discuss-police-scotlands-investigation-26093487

Datun · 03/02/2022 07:55

If police officers are going round to peoples houses and “checking their thinking” when there hasn’t been a complaint and there isn’t an investigation then that’s a bigger story.

Exactly.

No complaint. No investigation. Just officers taking it upon themselves to knock on women's doors to check their thinking?

MidsomerMurmurs · 03/02/2022 08:12

So did Murdo Fraser raise this as a Topical Question at Holyrood on Tuesday (as that Daily Express article said he said he was going to?)
Have tried to find info on the Scottish Parliament website but haven’t got anything more informative than “3. Topical Questions: Questions were answered by a Minister.”

Waitwhat23 · 03/02/2022 08:16

He tried but apparently that question 'wasn't picked'. I'll try to find the link

Waitwhat23 · 03/02/2022 08:21

www-scottishdailyexpress-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scottish-news/msp-vows-keep-fighting-answers-26106052.amp?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#aoh=16438763018606&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fscottish-news%2Fmsp-vows-keep-fighting-answers-26106052

'Mid Scotland the Fife MSP Murdo Fraser hadhoped to see the issue raised in the Scottish Parliamentand brought forward a topical question for Tuesday.

However, it was not selected for the discussion by the Presiding Officer.

But Mr Fraser has said is considering how else to take it forward and said on Monday: "Sorry that the question wasn't selected for tomorrow. I will consider how else I can pursue the issue"

Helleofabore · 03/02/2022 08:21

Who knows, but it certainly seems like the claims any police action was instigated by Mridul Wadhwa were a complete fabrication.

And if it turns out it is a complete fabrication, then I will retract saying MW reported it. I read MW’s tweet while it was active and Nicola Williams’ tweet and I don’t recall seeing MW state that they didn’t report it. I might have missed it as I have been busy. So, please link the tweet where MW denied they reported it. I am sure that would be the very first thing they would do, they are very quick to tweet other things.

If it was not them, then I will most certainly retract.

Waitwhat23 · 03/02/2022 08:23

I'm baffled as to why, if nothing happened, Assistant Chief Constable Gary Ritchie felt fit to be quoted as saying - "Hate crime and discrimination of any kind is deplorable and entirely unacceptable. Police Scotland will investigate every report of a hate crime or hate incident." (for which he's received a fair bit of criticism as it shows his woeful understanding of the Equality Act).

Why didn't he just say 'this didn't happen' if it didn't?

Helleofabore · 03/02/2022 08:24

But the “errors and omissions” piece does not address the points in the article that was withdrawn. It doesn’t say that no police officers went to Nicola Murray’s house.

That’s the story. If the whole thing is not true - no police officers visited Nicola - then why doesn’t the Times correction say that?

If police officers are going round to peoples houses and “checking their thinking” when there hasn’t been a complaint and there isn’t an investigation then that’s a bigger story. Huge.

Yes Midsomers. That would indeed be huge!

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