Matt Walsh asks trans activist 'what is a woman'..

[sacredfeminina]

Stumbled accross this on twitter. Matt Walsh, an American political commentator is on a chat show and confronts transactivist to define a woman and tells him that he is appropriating womanhood.

Then after being told that he has 'traumatised' the activists... He provides this response!!

Wow. He says sh*t straight.... Haha!

Talkshow:

Response:
twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1484268313815441418?s=20

twitter.com/calderdalewrn/status/1484601017685745665?s=21

“What annoys us about the trans debate is having to agree with people we’d normally disagree with about other issues. But if someone says it’s snowing and you look out of the window and it’s snowing, what else can you do?”

Hard to disagree with what he’s saying.

But Dr Phil should know better, what’s all that nonsense about “sex assigned at birth”?

@MalagaNights

I'm listening to The Ben Shapiro Show | Daily Wire Backstage: WE WON on Podbean, check it out! www.podbean.com/ea/dir-5gdek-123d6517

Matt Walsh et al discuss trans issue and the Canada Conversion Therapy bill on here.

Listen 55 mins in: Andrew Klavan suggests trans and the erasure of women is linked to a modern digust of women's bodies which is often present in dystopian literature and horror films.
Which I found interesting.

Warning: don't listen if you find right wing or religious views upsetting.

I've listened to this. I don't agree with all of it but as you say from that point in - some really excellent and insightful points are made but no one will hear them because the people discussing it are "SO RIGHT WING!"

I hope the trigger warning was a joke by the way, there's nothing to get particularly steamed up about in that podcast imvho. I consider myself centre left btw.

I find the whole polarization of political stances (left/right) really stifling. It leaves no room for nuance. It's like your either in the club our out of the club. It holds society back, as in actual fact we are all human beings with belief systems and morals over a spectrum, trying to find political representatives which we feel hold similiar beliefs. Its not the fucking harry potter sorting hat and now im Gryffindor until i die. I think im going to start a movement of non-binary politics where i will identify as a party-fluid, fluxpolitic. ''RIGHT IS LEFT'' will be the new slogan for us to waste all our fucking time scratching our heads over.

ANYWAY, jokes aside, in this instance by thinking that Matt Walsh is a 'CONSERVATIVE' like it is brandished onto his DNA, and means we then ignore everything else he says, we overlook the fact that he is human, and may well change his mind on abortion at some point, and in fact is more likely to if he starts spending more time considering women's rights. Its not like he was born being 'anti-abortion' and that that belief is immutable... Like i don't know, say his sex for example.

What is powerful about what he says, it sadly the fact that he is male saying it. He has a loud, strong voice which holds authority and silences others meaning his point is boomed accross the room and no one can try to talk over him. its a sad fact that males do have this vocal power, but i do think it is a reality, and is why i think so many yoyng ftm transitioners (initially) feel great when they are taking testosterone - finally their voices hold the room. Also why some mtf transexuals don't reeuce testosterone, like the judge/barrister (i dont remember which he is) who is trans but says he wont change his voice because it is the tool of his job.

Someome like posie parker is as equally direct, as equally fierce as Matt, but tends to get talked over by numpty male interviewers.

So i think, fucking great go for it Matt, go around pointing out the emperor is naked, and hopefully you might change your mind about some otherstuff whilst your at it too

I loved the clip, think it is great to see anyone standing up on mainstream tv and exposing gender ideology as the complete codswallop it is. And I think he did this very effectively, undoubtedly helped by his authoritative male voice and presentation.

sacredfemina said upthread
He does sadly say that his number one priority is truth, over women's safety

I actually agree with him on this as well. Obviously I am concerned about women's rights as well, but I'm even more concerned that a political movement has somehow managed to get people to believe, or pretend they believe, in a totally unscientific delusion.
Humans are a dimorphic species, humans can't change sex, a man can't be a woman.
I don't think these are political opinions, they are simple statements of fact. I don't need to agree with everything someone thinks about other political matters to agree that truth is important.

I think the kind of purity spiral promoted by Cheese above is part of the problem. There appear to be many people who are either unable, or too afraid, to think for themselves, and instead spout what they think are the 'correct' opinions, because they hear them from the 'righthinking' people. Its the most terrifying thing I have seen in my (long) life.

The American right are realising that the culture wars are a vote winner and that most people do not support this gender nonsense and they've decided to go agressive on it.
And it will work.

The right in the UK hasn't yet picked up on the winning stance of hitting back hard against this, but hopefully they will.

These threads are weird in the assumption that the left is still correct about everything execpt this, and 'we' all agree on that, and only happen to agree with the right on this issue and need to say that.

The fear that someone on twitter thinks you are RIGHT WING is hilarious.

Yeah, maybe I am a bit right wing. So's half the country, it's legal.
Calm down.

I now disgaree with the left on a lot of things, and I agree with Matt Walsh that the biggest issue here is the truth. That is bigger than women's rights as it's the basis for them, and all other rights. Once you lose the ability to state commonly held and unedrstood truths anything can be done, it's tyranny.

@londonWolf the trigger warning was tongue in cheek, but many on here on seem to find right wing views distressing, and can't beleive people actually have them, or are allowed to say them out loud, so I did want to prepare anyone who followed the link

Personally I love the jarring experience of listening along thinking people are reasonable and agreeing with them and then they say something that makes you go WTF, and you realise there is another topic where you find their views oppositional to yours.
It really challenges your thinking.

So I enjoy the Daily Wire discussions between that group. They are clever, knowledgable & funny, but unashamedley right wing and religious and I think it's really unusual to hear those types of discussions in the UK.

I like your posts @MalagaNights.

I don't consider myself conservative but I listen to Ben Shapiro every day. He talks about things that others won't and I want to know about them even if don't usually agree with his take on them.

See also James Lindsay - if you want to know just WTF is really happening he is the man to be listening to. Also Douglas Murray. I don't care to argue with anyone about this and won't be, but I think we are swiftly approaching the pendulum swinging back and I can only hope it doesn't swing as hard back to the right as it did to the left.

I just went to look at Walsh’s Twitter and saw this.

This year I will be waging an all out assault on gender ideology. We have been working on something that will make the Dr Phil episode seem tame and boring by comparison. I can’t say anything else about it but it will change the conversation. We can win this battle.

I’m not taking his bumph at face value, of course.

But he seems to have a lot of reach and some influence on the right wing in the States. So it sounds like there will be a lot more sunlight shone on everything over there and it will certainly be an election issue. I am somewhat hopeful. He’s got way more reach than radfems do at least!!

See also James Lindsay - if you want to know just WTF is really happening he is the man to be listening to. Also Douglas Murray. I don't care to argue with anyone about this and won't be, but I think we are swiftly approaching the pendulum swinging back and I can only hope it doesn't swing as hard back to the right as it did to the left.

That is my worry too. There is only so long people will tolerate "the right kind of politics" being so untethered from reality, the backlash will be a reaction to this rather than the lid coming off something the left have been trying to control.

I'm left of center but also listen to many political commentators on the right, I may disagree with them on many things but they are not spewing hat in the same way the left is at he moment, I feel very alienated from many I should have lots in common with and I'm so tired of the tribalism which leads to name calling and dismissal of the views of anyone who comes from a different place on the political spectrum.

We are in dangerous territory, it's time to grow up and engage with those we might disagree with and stop behaving like children who are frightened they might get a bit of conservatism on them.

You’ve nailed it there OP. Somehow now Right wing and Left wing are binary and immutable but Sex is fluid and complicated. Identity politics to the extreme.

I'm not understanding how someone with fundamental religious views, far right on political views compared to here, is being characterised as standard right, conservative (with either small or big c).

His stance is vv extreme by UK standards.

Also not sure why the idea nonono no way in same zone as those with similar views who aren't USA.

Feels like blind spot tbh.

USA left is righter than our right.

Totally different ball games.

Feels like blind spot tbh.

Yes there is Cheese. For a good proportion of this thread I and others have pointed out to you that it is what Walsh has said in this instance as being important. It doesn’t matter how right wing you or anyone else wants to categorise him. You have consistently and persistently failed to answer the questions about what he said, and are fixated on who he is. I don’t know why, and I don’t know why you are now insisting on rehashing the same tired arguments. It’s a huge blind spot for you, that you can’t see within yourself how you allow your own prejudices to block out important events and stories because all you see is identity.

@nolongersurprised

twitter.com/calderdalewrn/status/1484601017685745665?s=21

“What annoys us about the trans debate is having to agree with people we’d normally disagree with about other issues. But if someone says it’s snowing and you look out of the window and it’s snowing, what else can you do?”

The enemy of my enemy is a problem for later...

It's not agreement anywhere except on the very very very surface. And agree with them? Them not agreeing with feminist views?

Try telling this bloke he's in massive agreement with feminists and should listen to them. The anti abortion UK lefty style of feminism obv.

Way people in USA this bloke type views, somehow totally different to... Those in other countries with same major beliefs and also v religious is fascinating.

Is it because shared language?

It's a bit... Inconsistent to say this books should talk to but not equivalent in Poland for example.

What's the difference? There's not one. Something against the poles?

Pro choice! Here oops.

Obv it's him whose anti abortion homosexuality etc etc.

The enemy of my enemy is a problem for later...

I agree what a pp said about Matt Walsh’s voice helping, especially when up against a transwoman trying to sound like a natal woman.

Where I think he and Posie Parker are effective is they don’t care about hurting people’s feelings, or appeasement to “sound reasonable”. This is more confronting to people with PP because she looks so traditionally feminine and yet refuses to succumb to female socialisation. PP has accepted that the left has left her so doesn’t try to #bekind and Matt Walsh is a conservative so doesn’t even have to pretend to buy into any of the trans ideology.

I’d love to see them debate together (tenured be on the same side, obvs)

*they’d, not tenured

Other problem.

Say person A is vv good on environment, but wants non whites out of UK.

Using this method.

I share person A vid.
Tues 9am. Look at this! Fab vid on environment!

10am share different person A vid.
OMG this bloke is a vile racist wtf terrible.

Yes?
Consider each opinion completely separately. Don't think about what character as a whole is.

Taking that approach to logical conclusion would mean some pretty interesting statements...

Drawing equivalent between pp and him is interesting!

I don't know her stance on abortion, homosexual people, black people tbh.

She's never been left. She's never been a feminist. She's always said that.

When on here she used to cause mayhem with some of her views. And when she posted feminism often swiftly devolved into huge row!

She is a woman though and while those fights were vv frequent. I don't remember her views when posting feminism as even hinting at coming from fundamental religious Christian beliefs.

I will check if anyone interested?

IF she has same bunch beliefs this guy then that will be interesting.

As it is. She does her thing. As with this guy, plenty like plenty hate.

I think nothing to do with me really. Just let them get on with it.

No need for me to react either way.

As would have done this chap if not such a peculiar thread! He's not extreme right. Erm. According to some, obviously!

As would have done this chap if not such a peculiar thread!

Who has made it peculiar by posting about Robert Downey Jnr always playing himself?

You have made it very clear Cheese that you can’t comment on his words. There’s no point repeating yourself.

@CheeseMmmm

Other problem.

Say person A is vv good on environment, but wants non whites out of UK.

Using this method.

I share person A vid.
Tues 9am. Look at this! Fab vid on environment!

10am share different person A vid.
OMG this bloke is a vile racist wtf terrible.

Yes?
Consider each opinion completely separately. Don't think about what character as a whole is.

Taking that approach to logical conclusion would mean some pretty interesting statements...

Is the hypothetical person A in your hypothetical example right or wrong to raise awareness about the environment?