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The Call Is Coming From Inside The House - short film

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OhHolyJesus · 17/01/2022 16:28

The title comes from A Stranger Calls and what follows is something that should be watched by every secondary school teacher, therapist, Dr and politician.

It's a short film - 40 mins - a compilation really of TikTok videos and other clips which show how gripped these young people are and what can happen to them.

One quote I will probably miss quote

"Mentally ill people need to know what is real."

I'm sharing because it's really powerful in a truly terrifying way.

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sacredfeminina · 19/01/2022 19:54

A few thoughts -

Children and teenagers absolutely should not have unlimited access to the internet. They need to see it as a powerful tool & amazing resource, but not a way to pass time. How have we got to a point where children have complete freedom and control in what they watch and read? Never before have children had access to every thing that adults see and understand. Parents seem happy that their children are physically at home, yet their minds are not. Their minds are roaming far and wide.

All these girls seem incredibly intelligent. The vocabularly they have and the (misguided) insight. Is this a craze affecting the intelligent youth more ? What would they be doing if they didn't spend all their time on the internet? - painting? Writing poetry? Reading? Is this how they are directing their creative energy? Into recreating themselves? Are they their own proudest creation, until they go too far?

Where is the sacred feminine? Where i live there is a large alternative community and we run many womens circles. We also join together as elders and walk the girls through stages of female initiation ceremonies throughout their life.. until they become adults. We celebrate the feminine, the cycles and we teach them to love themselves and to recognise the power that they have as females. We also teach them how to protect themselves from the dangers that might befall them. They grow to love their womaness and know they must protect it. (Most parents round here also homeschool and restrict technology). I feel sad these girls on the video are so far from this.

QuimReaper · 19/01/2022 22:31

sacred I've noticed that with a number of detransitioners as well - the overthinking thing. I think sensitive, deep thinking girls might fletcherise more on the relaities of girlhood, and maybe be more inclined towards philosophical enquiry, which makes them prey to ideologies. Maybe.

QuimReaper · 19/01/2022 22:32

Sorry, the intelligence thing*

OhHolyJesus · 19/01/2022 22:38

We celebrate the feminine, the cycles and we teach them to love themselves and to recognise the power that they have as females. We also teach them how to protect themselves from the dangers that might befall them. They grow to love their womaness and know they must protect it.

This sounds amazing! I wish it was this that these children found on the internet, or better still that this was a real, tangible thing in their lives.

The Online Safety Bill in the U.K. should eradicate some of the damage caused by the internet but I don't think it will prevent access and it can never take all this pain away. It's too late for that. Some of these children will never be the same again.

Example here.

twitter.com/mediocredruid/status/1483834577735106564?s=21

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billydilly · 19/01/2022 23:24

Watching Cluniac unraveling in real time last week was one of the saddest things I've ever seen

QueenPeony · 20/01/2022 09:27

We celebrate the feminine, the cycles and we teach them to love themselves and to recognise the power that they have as females. We also teach them how to protect themselves from the dangers that might befall them. They grow to love their womaness and know they must protect it.

This sounds lovely, and it’s along the same lines as what I try to I teach my DD. But how do you stop a group like that from being full of males? It sounds like exactly the kind of thing that would be targeted as transphobic if it didn’t allow males in.

WandaWomblesaurus73 · 20/01/2022 11:02

The girls who have had their breasts amputated - crying in pain, drugged up on morphine.

Smiling.

WandaWomblesaurus73 · 20/01/2022 11:07

@ArabellaScott

Pulling quotes might be a good idea, Jesus.

I agree that I'm not sure if busy people will take tiem to watch a video and may prefer a short written letter. And also agree with Yet that the rpesentation of it makes for an interesting watch but may not be quite the right register for comms with politicians.

I agree with this - I don't think politicians will watch it, and they might find it too sensational and emotive. What they need to see are letters from detransitioners.
sacredfeminina · 20/01/2022 22:17

@QueenPeony

We celebrate the feminine, the cycles and we teach them to love themselves and to recognise the power that they have as females. We also teach them how to protect themselves from the dangers that might befall them. They grow to love their womaness and know they must protect it.

This sounds lovely, and it’s along the same lines as what I try to I teach my DD. But how do you stop a group like that from being full of males? It sounds like exactly the kind of thing that would be targeted as transphobic if it didn’t allow males in.

It's not a public group, just a collective of friends Theres no way a man would enter, we are the guardians and we would very much tell them to eff off. That said, a friend ran a public women's retreat and she was emailed by a transwoman asking if he could come and my friend said that no sorry it was for females only, and he must have accepted it as nothing came of it.
Phobiaphobic · 22/01/2022 17:23

I just can't deal with how OBVIOUS this is. It has ruined my faith in human nature that so many people have given this toxic ideology a free pass. It is inexcusable.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 22/01/2022 18:32

@billydilly

Watching Cluniac unraveling in real time last week was one of the saddest things I've ever seen
Agree.

I was very worried about him. I don't know him, but, it was a tough watch.

LightningJenny · 22/01/2022 20:44

@Whatwouldscullydo

It's being appropriated in the same way as lots of other terms, just with the added misfortune that people don't know much about it to start with so they assume it's some weird neo-gender or 'trans' things

Asexuality was part of the defence fir the keira bell/puberty blockers case.

Its being dragged in and made more visibleexploited because it was used to justify leaving kids with no sexual function.

Good grief, I had no idea of that. So wrong :(
RoyalCorgi · 23/01/2022 13:28

I felt so angry watching this. What is wrong with us as a society that we are allowing this to happen?

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 28/01/2022 21:58

I'm very late to this thread, but I watched this earlier this week.

One thing strikes me, which I don't think has been mentioned so far.

In the last day or two the BBC reported on young women with rapid onset Tourette's during lockdown. Their angle was 'how awful, families are having to pay for the diagnosis themselves', but this video points out early on that any number of young women and girls are claiming to have Tourette's recently, so this is another example of social contagion. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-60084539

Why is there so little curiosity amongst journalists now? Haven't any of them heard of social contagion?

I have become very cynical about charities, I'm afraid, so I'm not in the least surprised that the Tourette's charity is expressing no scepticism about this sudden huge rise. Not in their interests, is it.

Masdintle · 28/01/2022 22:44

I too wondered about social contagion during lockdown when I saw that headline, GaspOde. Do they not know?

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 29/01/2022 07:32

In the case of the tabloids, I'm never surprised when they will write anything for shock value to pull in more readers. 'Britain's youngest mum!' type stories, for example. Any concerned adult reading that would be thinking 'How could this happen to a girl as young as this? Where are social services and the police? What else is going on here? Red flags galore!' And it may well be that the tabloid journalists are just as aware about this, but the editorial line is 'Get plenty of pictures of the kid with the baby, the extended family, gushing quotes, we'll leave the readers to supply the outrage'.

But this is the BBC! I used to expect better from them. In the case of any sudden social change, shouldn't they be asking why it's happening, not just documenting that it is and taking people's words at face value? I actually heard an expert from the charity on the news the other day saying that Tourettes had always been something that started gradually in early childhood and mostly affected boys but now it seemed to have a rapid onset variant in teenage girls. Hello! Hello! Is there anybody there? What other huge social change has had a pattern like that in recent years? Confused Hmm

Lordamighty · 29/01/2022 08:48

The latest social contagion, in addition to Tourette’s, is multiple personality disorder, all via TikTok of course.
This short video is from Exulansic.

DoubleTweenQueen · 29/01/2022 09:29

@BlueberryCheezecake not have an opinion on this? Unusual.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 29/01/2022 09:54

Is multiple personality disorder the same as dissociative identity disorder? I thought that had gone right out of fashion in psychiatric circles, but the young sticker activist in South Wales mentioned on the thread about Jennifer Swales claims to have it. I think it's also mentioned in the video this thead is about, as yet another example of behaviour young people learn about via social media and then start exhibiting themselves.

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