Fair Cop Harry: ' police are making threats against Mumsnet. We are on the case.'

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He's going in!

Here's his complaint in response to a tweet from the South West branch of the LGBTQ Police Network.

I'll add the tweet if I can find it.

Do you work for South Wales Police by any chance BlueberryCheezecake

Nothing changes. Gobshite makes unfounded accusations. Gobshite asked to back up accusations. Gobshite can't so ignores request. Rinse and repeat.

We always ask "where is the transphobia?". We ask it about JKR's comments, we ask it about MN content, we ask it everything It's rare we get any actual examples.

So come on Cheesecake, give us some help. If there really is transphobia we'll help you get rid of it - nobody here wants to see transphobia thrive.

@MummBRaaarrrTheEverLeaking

You can't change sex. A woman is an adult human female. Sex is observed at birth, not assigned. Anyone of the male sex should stay the heck out of all womens spaces, but especially refuges, prisons and sports. Regardless of how they identify.

Do some proper policing and lay off the creepy wrongthink monitors.
Eff off Helen.

This!

I used to trust the police

Why ? What have they done in your lifetime - or before - to earn that.

On another thread I've just remembered the Birmingham 6. That's the 1970s police were fitting people up, lying in court and getting away with it. Then 30 years later they blew Jean Charles de Menenzes head off. And got away with it.

Last year they "bungled" investigations into Wayne Couzens and got away with it.

The police are there. They have a job to do. I'll do what I can.

But trust them ?

Maybe my problem is I grew up around a lot of coppers ?

At least you say "used" so are learning.

I still do broadly trust the police - except the met

I can understand that there will always be mistakes , and bad people , in any organisation

@EsmaCannonball

The very same people who declare ACAB and who demand the abolition of the police, the courts and the prison system are the very same people attempting to use those institutions as their political henchmen. They'd be quite happy for rapists to walk the streets but they'll set the police on you for saying something they don't like. The fact that the police and the courts are going along with this is insane.

The fact the Police and Justice system are too stupid to see that makes them even more of a laughing stock. Most of these people actually have ACAB in their Twitter bios.

I still do broadly trust the police - except the met

Listen to the BBC Sounds podcast "Shreds: Murder in the Dock"

That'll put you right on trusting the police.

It's the story of how 5 men were framed for the murder of a prostitute in Tiger Bay.

I do not trust the police, no, but I desperately fucking want to.

I want to know that my daughter is as safe as she can be, that if she ever is in need of help she could ask a police officer. I want to know that should anything ever (god forbid) happen to her she would be supported by the police and be able to trust them.

I'd really like to think it wasn't the police themselves she needed to be wary of, but reading the news and noting the harassment, abuse, abuse of power, social media 'monitoring', arrests of women for photos of suffragette ribbons, abduction & murder of a woman, a woman in Ireland having her rights read to her after tweeting about child safeguarding, a breastfeeding mother being arrested and prevented from seeing her child over tweets, the holding of records of 'non crime hate incidents', the refusal of police to help when women are being stalked and threatened, the dire rates of dv, the appalling rates of rape convictions, officers taking photos of female victims of male violence ...

You didn't get it do you?

I can trust the police and accept at the same time that the police force can never be perfect

It's not that only the met go bad , it's just years ago the met would take police who had been given the choice of leave the force or go to London , which means that it had a much higher proportion of bad eggs

Jesus H Christ.

Mimmymum is also "notorious" for things most people would crawl into a dark hole and never come out again for.

@LilithOfEden

Oh well, I hate. I have gone from a typical liberal, lefty, live and let live type, to feeling pure hatred towards everyone attacking the rights of women and girls; be it in your face TRAs, or useless, uncritical journalists, women hating police, stupid, unthinking medical and educational staff, lefty, beardy, misogynist men and cool girls wanting to be in the cool gang.

If any police reading this wish to PM me for my details, go ahead. I'd love to see you in court. Funnily enough, I channel my hatred via polite discussion, donation and legal activism, not through issuing rape and death threats on Twitter, terrorising gatherings of women, bringing vexatious court proceedings designed to harass, intimidate and wear down ordinary women exercising their right to speak freely or attacking people in the street. But yes, I am oh so dangerous to you lot, because you can't wear me down. And you can't wear down the women on this board - who represent the majority.

👏👏 👏 Yes we won't go away. Even if it takes ongoing slog and tiny steps then we'll keep going....

Happy for the police to investigate this.

My bar is low for the police - and their usage of social media - but they continue to crawl under it.

Oi Police... don't just get off Mumsnet - get off Twitter as well. You're embarrassing yourselves - as if a copper walking a man in a gimp-dog suit wasn't ridiculous enough.

@SerendipityJane, did you mean to be patronising?

The cops around here used to be decent. We had one as a neighbour when I was a kid, nice bloke. I was friendly with the daughter of another. I had one bad experience with a British bobby in 25 years. So, on balance, I trusted them.

Recent bullshit has damaged my faith in them. Yet we need a police force...

Has the South Wales police asked its control room to register a hate incident or possibly hate crime by tweet from some person with a twitter handle of minnymum or minnimum? I wait with bated breath.

So essentially someone has complained that the survey may get answers they don't want and as such the police are to investigate and monitor to make sure they don't get the responses that they don't want.

@Justkeeppedaling have you listened to Bed of Lies podcast? S1 is about the spy cops scandal

years ago the met would take police who had been given the choice of leave the force or go to London , which means that it had a much higher proportion of bad eggs

Is that true? If so, it's very interesting. I know new coppers in the Southeast like to try to get into the Met for the experience, but a friend who transferred from another force regretted it. They are famous for looking down on the "county mounties" as they refer to nearby forces, so I guess I always assumed they attracted the best (or at least most ambitious), not the dregs. I guess both can be true.

I take a different perspective, this is amazing advertising for MN as a space to be honest. It encourages more of the general public to pop in to see what's being said and when they see it matches their concerns, to join in.

I hope the police are not only watching and Mermaids, that they keep this live and loud on Twitter etc. so the public know. The more people who can see the trans movement for what it is - controlling, the better!

If transphobia means 'I don't believe male people can change sex, and I do believe that it is possible to respect a male person's chosen identity as a TW and indeed must happen without removing sex based rights and inclusion/access from the entire female half of the human race, and including males at the expense of excluding females from women's facilities and spaces is not ok' ?

Then you call me whatever names you feel you have to. I could call you some too. I won't however, not being a child any more.

Gosh. It's almost as though you're not allowed to say stuff that's true. But you are allowed to say stuff that's not true.

It's like The Trial. But without the trial.

Interesting this is South Wales police. I've lived there. As well as being relentlessly groped on nights out and assaulted whilst jogging twice, it's the only place where I, as a straight woman, have ever received homophobic abuse (due to the way I dressed apparently).

I suppose the fact they feel they've got the resources to monitor MN means that South Wales no longer has any issues with misogyny and homophobia. They surely deserve an award?

It out-Kafkas Kafka doesn't it RepentMotherfucker