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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Who the hell is Tom Harwood?

173 replies

TurquoiseBaubles · 04/01/2022 13:07

because he's really being ratioed on Twitter

twitter.com/tomhfh and twitter.com/tomhfh/status/1478035571146727425 in particular

He seems to have waded in on the trans/schools row. He isn't listening to the many, many replies and is doubling down in the weirdest way.

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Datun · 04/01/2022 16:28

@Scraggythang

That’s what I love about her! She makes them so angry that their mask slips. It’s like nothing I’ve ever seen before. And she is always unchanged.

No matter how the ‘intellectual feminists’ dislike her, she is effective.

Yes. She's not debating. She's making assertions and telling the truth.

There is no possible comeback to that.

Honestly, it does make you wonder how many of these absolute women hating tossers there are. Women are fighting for their right to identify their own fucking sex class, and they are being told it's 'rude'.

You know there is no possible argument when the objection is manners. But the fact that they think they can use it is so arrogant, domineering, entitled. Grrr.

Scraggythang · 04/01/2022 16:32

@Datun well, I think no matter how many there are, there seems to be someone out there who wants to line them all up to be eaten alive by Kellie.

Nice to have something good to watch in January. It’s a bleak month.

Deliriumoftheendless · 04/01/2022 16:38

As they say in this Jam sketch with the wonderful Julia Davis, "thick people are very good at winning arguments because they're too think to realise that they've lost."

I still say to my ex “yes I know what a parking meters are” to imply someone’s being very stupid.

ZuttZeVootEeeVo · 04/01/2022 16:40

He's an example of how misogyny doesn't die, it just gets redefined by younger men. He'll think older generations of men are sexist because they'll slap a womens bottom and not think she should have a professional career. But he thinks boys are identical to girls if they wear pigtails. 'Woman' is nothing more than a shell or costume to him, something that is there for the benefit of men, not a human with needs of their own.

GoodieMoomin · 04/01/2022 16:49

KJK is absolutely aflame at the moment!

ANewCreation · 04/01/2022 16:53

'I can only assume you don't know any women' was the perfect response to Tom's 'I can only assume that you have no trans friends, that you've never met anyone trans...'
Grin

TheWeeDonkey · 04/01/2022 17:17

The thing I don't get with schools is the same thing I struggle with with girls sports particularly.

It seems a catch 22 situation where a child has to be harmed to make this halfway workable. Either girls are massively disadvantaged and potentially put in danger from opportunist boys. Or boys who think they are trans must take hormones to stunt their development in order to assimilate for want of a better word.

Of course the best situation like PP said is girls schools are for girls same with girls sports. Its just something thats always struck me as an unworkable compromise.

yourhairiswinterfire · 04/01/2022 17:24

Who the hell is Tom Harwood?

Another man who is way too confident whilst spouting laughable bollocks, who seems to think that the rights, privacy and dignity of women and girls are his to give away to other men and boys 🙄

Pombearsforthewin · 04/01/2022 17:26

He is also spectacularly wrong about not knowing the difference by looking. Science (not his opinion) tells us that from a very early age, around three months or so, babies are able to distinguish gender of other babies and adult humans, simply by studying faces and respond accordingly. Add me to the Magdalen 'fuck off you wanker' brigade!

ScreamingMeMe · 04/01/2022 17:33

@Pombearsforthewin

He is also spectacularly wrong about not knowing the difference by looking. Science (not his opinion) tells us that from a very early age, around three months or so, babies are able to distinguish gender of other babies and adult humans, simply by studying faces and respond accordingly. Add me to the Magdalen 'fuck off you wanker' brigade!
KJK laughing at him when he said that was the perfect response.
TheWeeDonkey · 04/01/2022 17:34

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Mollyollydolly · 04/01/2022 17:35

It's astonishing watching that interview and his comments. I mean he's on GBNews ffs. What is terrifying is that views like his have been embedded in all our institutions with no debate. It's bloody terrifying. She makes him so angry, just by speaking the truth.

TheWeeDonkey · 04/01/2022 17:50

What about mushrooms. I think somebody's been taking them

2022HowDoYouDo · 04/01/2022 17:55

He, and two other male presenters were discussing this earlier on GBNews. I was open mouthed at the arrogance of Tom Harwood - boys should be allowed in girls schools (because they look the same!), male prisoners in female prisons should be assessed on a case by case basis. Three fucking men sat around discussing removing women's sex based rights. Three men debating whether women have too many rights! Fuck off!!

WalkOnGildedSplinters · 04/01/2022 17:58

I think TH can be added to the list of gay male misogynists who seem to have such rage when women talk about this issue and refuse to shut up.

James Max, Peter Tatchell, Owen Jones, Michael Cashman, Ben Cohen, Benjamin Butterworth, Adrian Harrop. There’s probably more I’ve forgotten about.

MsTSwift · 04/01/2022 18:03

These men just cant stand KJ speaking the plain truth to them.They get so testerical stuttery and het up when a sensible woman refuses to tow their line. Bless their little hearts. Absolutely hilarious - cheered up my afternoon anyway. And that other angry one she dealt with the other day. LOVE her would be great to be her friend!

sashagabadon · 04/01/2022 18:10

I don’t mind Tom Harwood, he did some great filming at Cop26 but on this he is utterly and completely wrong. And he did show his misogyny by talking over his co host. I assume he thought she agreed with him when she clearly didn’t. And to claim that “biological woman” is rude is Confused
I also think he comes from the wholly male perspective of “ it’s such a tiny number of people, what’s the problem?” when it actually affects a huge number of people, 50% of the population, every single female!
Mercy is a good find though. I like her a lot. I think they should get Posie back but have Mercy interview her. It would be a much better interview.

FrancescaContini · 04/01/2022 18:12

[quote JoodyBlue]Have to say that Kellie was superb in that interview though and the female co-presenter was good at tempering the bloke, even though he talked over her and had to have the final say. [/quote]
PP was excellent - thank you for linking this. As for that twerp in a suit: totally disingenuous to claim that you can’t tell the difference between the sexes, and a brilliant example of mansplaining how a young girl feels as she goes through puberty.

Yet another entitled, arrogant male.

FOJN · 04/01/2022 18:29

I love watching KJK stick to the truth and not giving an inch.

I can't see TH lasting long at GB news, he was very unprofessional and appeared to have trouble even reading the autocue. I though Mercy also showed him up with her professionalism.

Such arrogance from a very mediocre man is the very definition of male entitlement, it's infuriating to watch but also quite entertaining watching him get so wound up and making a complete twat of himself.

FOJN · 04/01/2022 18:30

TH and BG are both getting ratio'd on Twitter which is encouraging.

BettyFilous · 04/01/2022 18:44

Posie is such good value on these shows. She is unapologetically direct but, as others have said, effective in getting her point across about the immutability of sex. It cheers me up when she schools these snarky, uninformed young men. DH has come around to her style of bareknuckle fighting and has warmed to her.

Deliriumoftheendless · 04/01/2022 19:03

He talked about blanket bans being unfair but how else can you be fair? How is he proposing to gatekeep who is allowed in? Androgynous 6 year olds but no hairy 14 year olds? Anyone taking puberty blockers? Anyone who pinkie promises? Them as got really rich parents? None of those are fair or good solutions are they?

How would he keep everyone happy without a blanket ban? It’s not possible.

OhHolyJesus · 04/01/2022 19:07

Mercy's face at the end of that segment when Harwood says he cannot see how a girl goof through puberty can possibly be worse than being trans.

The misogyny ooozes out of him, I wonder how she can stand to sit next to him.

Her face said it all.

Datun · 04/01/2022 19:30

@Deliriumoftheendless

He talked about blanket bans being unfair but how else can you be fair? How is he proposing to gatekeep who is allowed in? Androgynous 6 year olds but no hairy 14 year olds? Anyone taking puberty blockers? Anyone who pinkie promises? Them as got really rich parents? None of those are fair or good solutions are they?

How would he keep everyone happy without a blanket ban? It’s not possible.

No, it's not the slightest bit possible. Women gatekeeping their spaces against determined men on an individual basis? It's nonsense. And scary which doesn't take into account any kind of sexual imbalance.

Fucking A, if we had the power to do that, the patriarchy wouldn't exist.

The gatekeeping is to keep ALL men out.

There is absolutely fuck all that a man can do to become a woman. It's not a club that you pay subs to. It's not green shield stamps (not everyone will get that).

And if it's about being fragile, what about gay men, old men, men with mental health issues, men who are targeted for being sex offenders, or paedophiles??

But, most importantly, what about the women who don't want a man in there, irrespective of his own internal thoughts and feelings and how he thinks about himself.

MalagaNights · 04/01/2022 19:35

Calvin Robinson debating this with Tom Harwood on GB news today.
Calvin gets it brilliantly.

twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1478425998202859520?t=Wnfj4aoOi_kJnC902cu3BQ&s=19

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