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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Janice Turner calls JK Rowling a goat

74 replies

JustSpeculation · 24/12/2021 22:08

...in the Times.

All rather nice, really.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/e112d00a-64e8-11ec-b279-fa13aec304af?shareToken=4922ca26c402707bbf536160a155888b

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heathspeedwell · 25/12/2021 11:04

Wonderful article. And I see from the comments that the amazing Jo March is a Mumsnetter! All in all a very good start to Christmas day.

mateysmum · 25/12/2021 11:19

@heathspeedwell

Wonderful article. And I see from the comments that the amazing Jo March is a Mumsnetter! All in all a very good start to Christmas day.
How could it be otherwise!
HereticFanjo · 25/12/2021 11:25

Great piece. Thank you for sharing and a very happy Christmas to all on this board. Goats rock!

AlfonsoTheGoat · 25/12/2021 12:05

That article was perfection. Ms Turner's cold fury was a thing of beauty.

Igmum · 25/12/2021 13:13

Excellent thank you Janice and Merry Christmas all

GoatCallsToGoat · 25/12/2021 14:12

I always assumed that Jo March was a Mumsnetter. Her Times comments are so clear and incisive it would be a great pity if she hadn't found these boards too!

ForeverFaithless · 25/12/2021 16:35
Grin
TrueGrit54 · 25/12/2021 16:46

Wow! Fantastic article. Thanks for bringing it to my (our) attention OP. I know so many teens that have turned against JK, it’s insidious how they are being misinformed. 🐐

Cuck00soup · 25/12/2021 16:46

Thank You Janice, and a merry Christmas

educatingrati · 25/12/2021 16:54

Brilliant article

NdujaWannaDance · 25/12/2021 17:15

Bloody fantastic. I love Janice Turner.

morningtoncrescent62 · 25/12/2021 17:46

A Christmas present from Janice! Janice, if you read this board, thank you for the article and for your bravery and commitment to the feminist cause. You've been brilliant, and this article rounds off a year of brilliance.

KohlaParasaurus · 25/12/2021 17:51

A GOAT? I've only just got used to being a dinosaur.

Fantastic article. Back in my Sunday School days I always worried that I might be an outcast goat rather than a heaven-bound sheep. Now I'm thinking the story may have been taught with the wrong focus.

Theimpossiblegirl · 25/12/2021 17:57

A lovely bit of Christmas cheer.
Happy Christmas JK, we stand with you. Xx
🐐🐐🐐

ImmutableSexQueen · 25/12/2021 18:02

Merry Christmas, goats!
Thank you to everyone who speaks up, who stands with women.

Blibbyblobby · 25/12/2021 18:17

@teawamutu

"The merest accident of microgeography had meant that the first man to hear the voice of Om, and who gave Om his view of humans, was a shepherd and not a goatherd. They have quite different ways of looking at the world, and the whole of history might have been different. For sheep are stupid, and have to be driven. But goats are intelligent, and need to be led."

Terry Pratchett, Small Gods

I think Small Gods is Pratchett's masterwork. I often think about it in relation to gender ideology - those who espouse it, those who truly believe it, those who exploit it for power or status, those it harms, and those who stand up to it.

e pur si muove

Blibbyblobby · 25/12/2021 18:25

And of course, that the story ends with the person in the "right" accepting the one in the wrong with compassion and understanding despite everything, because they understand that to do anything else is to lessen themselves.

Mochudubh · 25/12/2021 19:13

Brilliant article. Can we look forward to some goat merchandise to go with the dinosaurs?

Can we refute accusations of TERF with "No, I'm a Goat"?

ArabellaScott · 25/12/2021 19:15

@KohlaParasaurus

A GOAT? I've only just got used to being a dinosaur.

Fantastic article. Back in my Sunday School days I always worried that I might be an outcast goat rather than a heaven-bound sheep. Now I'm thinking the story may have been taught with the wrong focus.

It's a viper/dinosaur/goat continuum. You might say 'spectrum'.
ArabellaScott · 25/12/2021 19:16

Earworm for the day:

I'm a GOAT motherfucker, I'm a GOAT.

Rhannion · 25/12/2021 19:28

Rather a goat, than a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

Mochudubh · 25/12/2021 19:31

Trip-trap, trip-trap, the bridge is getting more rickety-rackety by the day. Soon there will be nowhere for the troll to hide. Trip-trap, Trip-trap.

JayAlfredPrufrock · 25/12/2021 19:50

Oh that’s made me cry.

2319inprogress · 25/12/2021 22:10

Thank you Janice that's wonderful- I always thought I was (& was told I was) just thrawn but maybe I'm a goat Xmas Grin

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