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Jo Bartosch article in MoS on Graham Linehan exclusion

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Abitofalark · 19/12/2021 01:41

The ever excellent Jo Bartosch on how GL / Glinner is being frozen out of a musical of his own creation, Father Ted, by producers' fears of trans extremists getting it shut down.

This is reminiscent of Rose, the dancer choreographer being shut out of her own company by young dancers, and JK Rowling being denounced by her young actors and her name almost erased from her own creation's film by a Hollywood company:

"Hat Trick had asked Mr Linehan to remain silent on the subject, but he had found it difficult.
‘The warnings from the production company became more insistent,’ explained Mr Linehan.
‘After a while, I had a very funny meeting with a top public relations guy at the company.
‘I’d hoped it might help improve my image. Instead he said: “Graham, I have to tell you, there are some people in the office who won’t work for you”.’
Mr Linehan added: ‘In almost every company I’ve worked with there are now young employees who are ferociously authoritarian.
‘They seem to think that unless you believe the same things as them then you have no right to take part in society.’ "

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10324511/Father-Ted-creator-claims-trans-zealots-forcing-stage-version-show.html

It's interesting to see Jo Bartosch moving up from Spiked to the mainstream press, at first to The Times where she had an article recently and now to the mass circulation Mail on Sunday. Similarly Julie Bindel has made the Mail very recently. Good on them.

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GrimDamnFanjo · 19/12/2021 01:48

Read this and felt so sorry for Glinner.
He's paid a very high price for supporting women.

TheMarzipanDildo · 19/12/2021 02:07
Sad

How awful.

MiladyBerserko · 19/12/2021 05:26

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Lammysaurus · 19/12/2021 05:41

@MiladyBerserko

Jo Bartosch of the recent calling of women 'domesticated zombies' fame and also calling women 'flying monkeys' because they disagree that there is 'journey to womenhood' for males.

Sorry, disagree about the 'excellent'. Seriously had enough of these women who think they get to decide the line on who is a woman . The line is absolute. The line is the Y chromosome Jo.

Link please, to a primary source for Jo Bartosch repeating or agreeing with these comments, which originally came from Ruth Serwotka? Thanks.
HesBoughtAFuckingHat · 19/12/2021 05:42

It wasn’t Jo Bartosch who called women “domesticated zombies”, it was Ruth Serwotka.

Whingasaurus · 19/12/2021 05:44

Nice bit of DARVO there MiladyBerserko

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 19/12/2021 05:47

@MiladyBerserko

Jo Bartosch of the recent calling of women 'domesticated zombies' fame and also calling women 'flying monkeys' because they disagree that there is 'journey to womenhood' for males.

Sorry, disagree about the 'excellent'. Seriously had enough of these women who think they get to decide the line on who is a woman . The line is absolute. The line is the Y chromosome Jo.

You're thinking of Ruth Serwotka who tweeted all that. I was fully immersed in that twitter bunfight, with my nose pressed to the screen, so I am an expert now!
PurgatoryOfPotholes · 19/12/2021 05:47

Wow, cross post with everyone.

Igmum · 19/12/2021 06:12

Utterly dreadful for Glinner and so unjust. I really just want this insanity, this cancel fervour, this horrific damage to children to stop now. What these people are doing is mindless evil

MiladyBerserko · 19/12/2021 06:38

Ah. Oops. Humble apologies to Jo.
Runnning away now.

Although, i dont get the DARVO part whing. What do you mean by that?

EarthStoodHardAsPrion · 19/12/2021 06:48

So disappointed by Hat Trick. Why are they bowing to those bullying their writers?

And Father Ted was huge. Do they really think that any publicity these activists create will be bad for the show? They should heed Oscar Wilde “The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about”. Whatever happened to “There’s no such thing as bad publicity”?

loislovesstewie · 19/12/2021 06:52

Just to say I support him wholeheartedly and to thank him for all he does.

Datun · 19/12/2021 06:54

Jesus. Graham Linehan is a towering comedic talent. What skill are these woke children actually offering that they can leverage him out???

People cant stand woke programmes/entertainment. Look what happened to Dr Who and now Sex and The City.

TheMarzipanDildo · 19/12/2021 07:01

From a money making perspective, it’s bizarre that they should try and get rid of Graham. They would be simultaneously alienating the untapped right wing fundamentalist Christian audience who would be able to spend their vast fortunes on tickets!

Grin Clearly I am joking, but GC feminists have purses too...

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 19/12/2021 07:35

@MiladyBerserko

Ah. Oops. Humble apologies to Jo. Runnning away now.

Although, i dont get the DARVO part whing. What do you mean by that?

Grin

Hide behind the Millicent Fawcett statue for a bit.

I had no idea there were that many of us online at that time of the morning!

Rightsraptor · 19/12/2021 07:41

Too bloody early on Sunday morning if you ask me. But here we all are, with out teas & coffees.

I am glad Milady was mistaken about Jo B - it gave me quite a nasty turn to think Jo had defected. Almost spilt my tea on the duvet.

BraveBananaBadge · 19/12/2021 09:20

Glinner's spoken about this before iirc, that cancellation of the show would put everyone out of work and it was effectively the pension of him, Arthur Matthews, Neil Harmon etc. And that was a year or two ago, things are even more toxic now. As awful as it is I can't see this going ahead same as Gilliam's show, unless the theatre is prepared to defend it to the hilt. (I think Into the Woods has been picked up elsewhere, which does give some hope?)

Really hope it makes it on but there will be an awful backlash from the bullies.

Good on Jo and the MoS (never thought I'd say that!) for giving Glinner the space to really explain the situation and quote him in full. So sorry this is happening to him. The stress must be unbelievable.

SomepeopleareTERFSgetoverit · 19/12/2021 09:42

It’s an awful move from “I disagree with this play/movie/TV show and will express my disagreement peacefully” e.g. church groups who didn’t like Kevin Smith’s Dogma as they thought it a bit blasphemous to “I disagree with this AND IT MUST NOT SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY”

AlfonsoTheUnrepentant · 19/12/2021 09:46

Mr Linehan is a man of integrity who has paid an enormous price for supporting women's rights.

ErrolTheDragon · 19/12/2021 10:00

Afaik the religious groups who've tried to get 'blasphemous' (or otherwise offensive to them) productions shut down - often by targeting advertisers - generally haven't had much traction have they?

EsmaCannonball · 19/12/2021 10:01

Would Hat Trick find it acceptable if Graham walked into their offices and said, 'There are people here who don't believe gender is a social construct and I refuse to let them work on this production.'? I bet they wouldn't. Why are they allowing their employees to discriminate against a writer for his legally held principles? These are the fuckers who would have joined the Khmer Rouge.

TurquoiseBaubles · 19/12/2021 10:04

We have gone full circle

TurquoiseBaubles · 19/12/2021 10:06

Sorry, forgot picture

Jo Bartosch article in MoS on Graham Linehan exclusion
scratchedbymycat · 19/12/2021 10:09

Isn't this equivalent to McCarthyism?