Choreographer Rosie Kay forced to resign from her own company

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Rosie Kay: I resigned from my own dance company after I was accused of transphobia

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/3935bc4a-5858-11ec-a3f7-65d2d47c7fea?shareToken=d4efe0ddb11ede84d52835a0a02d70e3

Well said MummBRaaarrrTheEverLeaking!

Good luck to those 'dancers' in finding another job. They have rendered themselves completely unemployable. There are thousands of other dancers to choose from, and no choreographer or artistic director is actively going to employ a troublemaker.

@IntermittentParps

I am still trying to work out just what the hell was so wrong with that. Was the room decorated (by the child?) in a clearly binary way? (How?) Was it just incredibly untidy, such that her showing it to them was an implied slur on their deservingness? What? Enquiring minds need to know. Madness, I know. To me it sounds like, just as in witch hunts of yore, they just cast around for anything to add to their list of complaints and objections. Any mud that might stick.

Harry Potter paraphernalia?

@hotfroth

I find this appalling. Of all the professions in the world, the dance industry has long been one of the most inclusive of sexual orientation and gender.

Les Ballets Trockadero de Monte Carlo being a well-known example.

They probably decided to have a go at her because they went to an audition and didn't get cast.

Oh, I love the Trocks. They are fabulous dancers.

@hotfroth

Good luck to those 'dancers' in finding another job. They have rendered themselves completely unemployable. There are thousands of other dancers to choose from, and no choreographer or artistic director is actively going to employ a troublemaker.

I wonder if the company's failure to bond in the first place, which Rosie was trying to help with, might have been due to the chippiness and preciousness of some individuals.

That's an interesting point.

Well, solipsism doesn't make for good team bonding ime.

I'm a huge fan of dance - traditional ballet and contemporary but I can't stand allets Trockadero de Monte Carlo. It's a horrible , nasty parody.

@KaycePollard

What on earth else can you do? Except know that if you ever say the wrong thing and don't "repent m#th3rf£cker" enough, you will be dragged through hell.

But we know that even the most abject apology is not enough. Ms Kay is guilty of wrongthink and the only solution is that she disappears forever. A kind of death.

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Its struck me how true this is.

Eternal damnation.

The dancers who sent the open letter whine about ""potential detriment to [their] careers".

Why would that be? Surely if they're on the right side of history and all right-thinking people agree with them, it can only boost their standing.

It couldn't possibly be because they actually realise that lots of people won't want to take on employees / contractors who behave in such an aggressive, overbearing, dictatorial manner, could it?

Or that they're realising from the public reaction how their behaviour is being viewed by most people? And they're panicked by the disapproval and disagreement?

So they've realised that their behaviour makes them look bad? Awww. Rosie should have just put up and shut up. Skunk away quietly like the horrible transphobe she is.

What odious brats.

It's all bizarre. Is ballet no longer highly competitive? Getting a place in a functioning dance company in today's economic climate seems a strange thing to throw away because you can't boss your employer around. The expectation of being able to boss your employer around in the contentious area of identity politics is an odd one. If it's not the right dance company for them they should have resigned and then someone happy to just dance could have had their place..

22640 carrots produced, the recipe quotes 25000 so a bit more digging wouldn't go amiss. Ovarit tells you where to find the recipe 🥕🥕

?? Wrong thread or some clever way of getting round the T+C's that I have missed.

The Carrot Allegory sounds really interesting 😆

I read the article that is now on the front page of the BBC app and came to find the thread.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-59584638

I like a nice carrot cake- just bought some.

It's particularly sad that longstanding friends who she trusted decided to stitch her up over this and allow one disciplinary process after another rather than saying after she apologised "That's the end of it". It does show a danger of seeking charitable status. You do lose a lot of control . In retrospect she'd have been better just paying more tax.

Carrots are very nutritious, especially good for dancers who need to regulate their weight carefully whilst still eating healthily. Lots of fibre too.

@2Rebecca

It's all bizarre. Is ballet no longer highly competitive? Getting a place in a functioning dance company in today's economic climate seems a strange thing to throw away because you can't boss your employer around. The expectation of being able to boss your employer around in the contentious area of identity politics is an odd one. If it's not the right dance company for them they should have resigned and then someone happy to just dance could have had their place..

In another thread a poster was seeking advice because a new, junior member of staff went to HR because the husband, who was in a management role, failed to respond in an approved way to a question about pronouns. There seems a real willingness to berate bosses for wrongthink.

Women saying "no" like Rosie did are about as gender non conforming as it gets. Gender idealogues don't have a place for women who won't stay in one or other of their sparkly boxes.

Chersfrozenface
The dancers who sent the open letter whine about "potential detriment to [their] careers".

They don't have careers. They didn't have one (each) before and they don't now.

It is not yet possible to force an individual to employ another individual, and I am reasonably sure that no individual wants to employ in a team anyone who has proved him- her- or whatever-self incapable of working as part of a team. Why would a dance organiser take that risk? He or she or whatever also has a career to worry about -- an actual career rather than an aspiration to have one.

The reputation these foolish young creatures have gained for themselves is not going to wash off with soap and water.

It's telling, I feel, that after one did resign, another more experienced dancer (possibly one with a real career rather than the wistful notion of one) was able to take on that part after two days' rehearsal.

@Iwishihadariver

22640 carrots produced, the recipe quotes 25000 so a bit more digging wouldn't go amiss. Ovarit tells you where to find the recipe 🥕🥕

22,870.40 of them.

@Clymene

So they've realised that their behaviour makes them look bad? Awww. Rosie should have just put up and shut up. Skunk away quietly like the horrible transphobe she is.

What odious brats.

Quite astonishing that they are now playing the victim...but I guess that's the end game. We can ruin you, but you can't talk about it.

Appalling.

I wonder if Save Women's Sports are going to get involved?. I really think that all the pressure groups need to get together to deal globally with this madness.

Students meet the real world. Universities are not doing students any favours in encouraging them to think that the real,world won't tell them to do one. They obviously thought they could bully their employer and get their way. It didn't cross their mind that they wouldn't and would end up out of a job.